I'm not so sure Mosley is going to be a walk in the park for Pacquiao.

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have done my fair share of critizing Pacquiao's choices for oppoents lately because he deserves it. I think the term is "chery picking". Now I think there are better choices for Pacquiao in terms of chalanges than Mosley. Such as Mayweather, Martinez and Breto. Even Bradley and Alexander espicily the winner in their upcoming bout would be a better choice tha Mosley, But Pacquiao avoides chalnges so it apoears that Mosley is his likely next oppoenet.

    I'm not saying that Mosley is going to beat Pacquiao just that I am not so sure that it is going to be an easy fight. I don't think Mosley is washed up. His lastwo fights were against guys who stylisticly are bad for him. Mayweather and Mora. Look at who else he did not beat. Forest, Wright and Cotto. In terms of style each of these guys at least to a cetrtian degree are boxers as opposed to pressure fighters which Pacquiao is. Cotto may be the least boxer like but besides his draw with Mora the Cotto fight was the closest.

    Mosley is at his best when his oppoenent comes to him. Since Mosley is bigger Pacquiao will come to him. I think in the end Pacquiao's speed will preveil but he's going to get hit. Mosley is better than Margraioto, Clottey and Cotto. Yes Cotto beat Mosley but I do not beleve that if they were to rematch he'd beat him again.

    Mosley can win this fight. Pacquiao tends to get hit by lesser guys than Mosley. Pacquiao's powe has not really caried over into the 147 range as he has only two stoppages. 1. Wearing Cotto down for 12 rounds, 2. Stoping an old should not have been in a boxing ring at anything less than 154 De La Hoya on his stool. On the other hand Mosley has had power at 147 and above.

    If this fight goes tom the cards Pacquiao wins 8-4, maybe as clos as 7-5. If this fight dose not make it to the final bell Mosley will win.
     
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  2. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    mosley only has a punchers chance in the 1st 4 rounds after that he'll be gassed trying to match pac's pace. Then he gets the **** beat out of him like never before and get stopped in the later rounds. LOL at mosley winning rounds against pac. Cotto is a better boxer than mosley and he only won atmost 2 rounds against pac.

    Mosley would have to KO pac in the 1st 4 rounds or get stopped later in the fight. No way those legs will hold up to pac's offensive onslaught in the mid to late rounds.
     
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  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Alot of people dismissing Mosley's inside clinch...
    Shane is gonna clinch on the inside & push Manny against the ropes.
    (Pac's Kryptonite is the ropes)

    Watch any Manny fight & tell me, What is the first thing Roach tells Pac to avoid....?
    (Rizzzopes)
     
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  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    IMO

    Pac will have Mosley chasing shadows and looking stupid for 6 rounds until Mosley is frustrated and tired, then go into putting a painful beating on Mosley from rounds 6-12, and afterwards, it will still be two years since Mosley has won a fight. Pac wont even be there for Mosley to clinch, trust.

    Pac has become elusive when he wants to be, add to that his work rate, the pace he is going to set, Mosleys fading stamina and his 'need a target to throw' mentality and this fight will be a mismatch, IMO.

    Ridiculous fight in my opinion.
     
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  5. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    That's the beauty of this sport.
    (We truley don't know ****, Until it happens) :good
     
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  6. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Face it, Mosley is an old fart who's faded into the black..... He has NO BIDNESS being on anymore high profiled PPV cards from a major cable outlet...... I will laugh and scoff at the fools' in 2011 who support "Pacquiao-Mosley" as a PPV event for 50 to 60 USA dollars come the spring of '11.... This match is designed for regular HBO use only....... PPV? My ass......

    MR.BILL
     
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  7. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Mosley tired very quickly having to chase Mayweather around, He didnt have to chase Margatrito and battered him. Manny is somewhere in the middle of those to but the relentless workrate will do the trick and Mosley has the 1st 5 rounds to do something or hes guna be too tired to compete
     
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  8. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's easier said than done. It's never easy clinching pac because:

    1. You have to close in on him while trying to duck incoming counters.
    2. Pac has very good/fast footwork.
    3. Pac is a strong little ****er and can't be bullied easily.
     
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  9. kirk

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    My problem isnt with the 'in the ring' mismatch.

    I would have no problem with an apparent mismatch if the fight was at least one of the few fights that should be made for each fighter. Because you are right, that is why they fight.

    But Mosley hasnt won a fight in TWO years by the time Pac will have fought him, will be nearing 40 years old, and most importantly, it shows.

    If Bradley gets by Devon Alexander, he will be a young, undefeated champion in his prime, coming off the biggest win of his career, and the number one fighter in his weightclass.

    I have no problem with the mismatch that I believe Pac vs Mosley would be, and have a big problem with that Mosley has not beaten a fellow contender in two years, is coming off losing 35 minutes out of 36 to Mayweather and failing to beat an unranked Mora, and is getting rewarded by winning the boxing sweepstakes and getting a shot at the p4p king? Absurd.

    And I have a problem with that it is the second opponent in a row that Pac is facing that is essentially at the crossroads of their careers and has the boxing world actively wondering what these guys honestly have left? And I have a problem with Mosley not having to actually beat some peers again before being thrown into a superfight with the worlds best. I understand promoters and managers looking at boxing through $$$ eyes, but its sad that the day is coming that fans now care more about what fights are 'biggest' instead of what fights should actually be made. (Not saying you 'Rats, but one runthrough of a thread defending this fight will show the mentality, its the same one Mayweather fans have had, and Pac fans use to hate)

    Bottom line, IMO.

    Now is the time for Pac to face a young undefeated champion in their primes, coming off good wins, good performences,

    Not 40 year olds who have went 0-1-1 in the last two years.

    That is my problem. I have no love, nor support, for this fight. I let the Margo one slide because I understand that every fighter will have those kind of fights every now and then.... but like I said, now its time to give one of these young guys a shot.


    The actual mismatch this fight would be, is just terrible icing on an already bad cake.
     
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  10. rocky538

    rocky538 Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Mosley will be 2 years older than when he fought Margarito coming up in January, his career is done time to hang them up. If Pacquiao struggles at all with Mosley that would embarrassing.
     
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  11. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So how does it feel to make so many posts on a boxing message board when you know absolutely nothing about boxing? After cleaning out the welterweight division, do you really think anyone will give Pac any credit for beating up jr. welters?
     
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  12. coupdegrace

    coupdegrace Active Member Full Member

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    people criticizing manny pacquiao for cherry picking is plain hater and stupid at its finest, why? any boxer you put on him 140-147 lber except gayweather you'd call it past it, green, too small, too old, too slow, feather fisted, not too black, blah blah blah, any excuse you'd find just to criticize. When all in your minds, you already knew nobody currently 140-147 can give pacquiao trouble except mayweather. Well even mayweather is doubting himself to win against pac thus the vacation.

    This is what makes it more hillarious, the ts thinks pacquiao is cherrypicking, if mosley was named his next oppponent, yet he thinks mosley is not an easy fight. :huh You can't be that stupid.. How can you say he's cherrypicking if you think its not going to be easy, make up your mind. :lol: IMHO only ARUM cherrypicks opponents, he cherrypicks an opponent who's the MOST MARKETABLE and AVAILABLE. Only ******ed people thinks manny cherrypicks. Sorry for my grammar i'm an asian just starting to learn the universal language bit by bit. But hey im no ******* :good
     
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  13. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    Mosley doesn't have his same handspeed or reflexes. He always got hit easily but now he gets hit very easily. Ud for manny pacquiao who will turn mosley all night and combination punch the Hell out of him.
     
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  14. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    Do Shanes last 2 fights not tell you anything?

    This a ridiculous and totally unnecesarry fight. In which Mosley will take one hell of a beating. Pacquiao is only getting better and Shane getting worse.

    Plus what does it do for pacs standing? When mayweather has already destroyed him and sergio Mora fought him to a draw?

    Its totally pointless and another example of Bob Arum taking the royal **** once again.

    Are pacs fights until he retires just going to be an endless stream of already irrelevent opponants?
     
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  15. PH|LLA

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    on one hand you say Pacquiao doesn't take challenges, and on the other hand you say Mosley can win the fight.

    Well which one is it? Or can Mosley win the fight without being a challenge?
     
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