I'm now convinced that Tua hit harder than Foreman!

It's a bit more than just Holmes word, numerous others, and i mean numerous, have attested to Shavers immense power.

 

hahaha.....so true!

 

I think Tua hit as hard as any man.
He put guys to sleep with his left hook.
Generated incredible power.

Ike Ibeaubuchi must have had a granite chin.

The thing with Tua though is that he had to land that short left hook, and had nothing much else really.
Guys like Foreman and Shavers esp. they could rock good fighters with all sorts of glancing blows and haymakers.

 

Both Foreman and Shavers hit harder than Tua. Shavers arguably has the hardest right hand in heavyweight history. As for Big George, no other heavyweight has his total power capacity from both fists. Two fighters aside from David Tua are worthy of mention, challenging Foreman's overall power. Mike Tyson and Sonny Liston are two fighters that had tremendous power in both fists.

 

i agree and thats y i am seriously annoyed at him he had savier of the heavys written all over him
but like tyson he fked up only a hell of a lot worse he'd defo b the best heavy to not even win a world title of decent standing

 

Tua came out with bad intentions a lot more than comeback George from what I've seen.

George took a few rounds in there to get rid of lower class guys. Not that his power was lacking, he just usually didn't (In his comeback, anyway) come out looking to decapitate guys.

 

I don't think it's nuthugging. It's just an acknowledgement that Shavers is one of the biggest hitters ever. Tua's left hook is up there, though, and punch for punch I think he hits harder than Foreman. I don't know about Shavers, though.

 

Tua was a one trick pony.. just a left hook.....

George and Earnie hit a lot harder and could hit pretty hard with either hand..

Different comparrison really.... Tua faced a lot lesser comp than both George and Earnie...

 

to be honest with you all, none of you have the slightest clue on who hit the hardest cus you've not been in the ring with them. To say Tua hit harder than Foreman because you showed footage of him knocking out some tomato cans is stupid. He could have hit harder, but nobody here will ever know.

 

I think what we really need to ask ourselves is, WHO did he knockout, or WHO were his most durable KO victoms? Personally, I don't see any Oliver McCalls, Ray Mercers, Evander Holyfields or Vitali Klitschkos on his record. Most of these men were either at or near prime during Tua's peak years, and he faced none of them.

Now to discuss who he DID fight
Hasim Rahman was stopped by 3 other fighters, yet me managed to go a combined 22 rounds with Tua, which included a draw result. Chris Byrd was a rather small heavyweight by today's standards and was taken out a few times in his career, yet he survived Tua for 12 rounds and even beat him. David Izon and Oleg Maskaev were both novices and men who were Ko'd more than once in a career and they went 11 and 12 rounds with Tua. Jeff Wooden was a bum who took Tua 10 rounds enroute to a majority decision loss. I'm also not terribly impressed with the fact that he Ko'd guys like Robert Daniels, Donell Nicholson and an old Moorer on the comeback trail. These fights don't tell me that he was a harder puncher than some of your run of the mill household names. On a positive note, he did manage to KO a prime Ruiz who in hindsite we know was a pretty durable fighter, but I'm not about to get excited about it.

When Goerge Foreman was in his prime during his first career, he had stopped 42 of 45 victoms, all by the age of 29. Only 3 men took him the distance and they all came within George's first 15 fights. From that point forth, he would knockout 30 straight opponents before leaving the game in 1977. The next time anyone would go the distance with him would be in 1989 at the age of 41, and that was after compiling 18 comeback KO's for a grand total of 48 consecutive knockouts since Gregorio Peralta took him the distance back in 70'. That is a **** of a good KO record. Some of his victoms included durable opponents like Chuvalo, Lyle, and Frazier whom no one else ever destroyed.

 

Exactly. When did you ever see Joe Frazier, who had a great chin, get destroyed in 2 rounds, hitting the canvas half a dozen times? That is ridiculous. Chuvalo, the toughest chin in boxing history, TKOd in 3. Tua has nothing on those achievements by Foreman.

Shavers may have had more sting in a single punch (when he managed to land a clean blow, that is), but Foreman was by far the more destructive puncher. Tua is not even close.

The real badass heavyweight punchers were:

Louis
Liston
Foreman
Tyson

That's it. No other heavyweights got close to that blend of power, combination puching, and accuracy. Those 4 guys were the only ones who could really take out a guy with a rock-solid chin. Guys like Marciano, Lewis, Shavers etc could bang hard, but they just weren't the same kind of threat to genuine heavies with an iron jaw.

 

Eh, Foreman and accuracy aren't two things I usually attribute to one another.

 

And Foreman's performance wasn't hampered in his first career by gaining a ridiculous amount of weight. Of course it's going to vary WHEN he knocks out the likes of Izon and Maskaev.

I think it's telling against Maskaev that he barely landed a substantial shot until the latter rounds when only a handful had him out.