im now convinced

Even Jeffries himself said that he never would have beaten Johnson at his best. I think I'll take his word over anyone else's.

 

Sometimes a quote takes a life on its own on the web. There was no source for that quote. In truth what Jeffries said after the fight is if he was in his prime, he would have won. As it was he was too old to come back.

 

Is a myth. Guys like Bert Sugar and Ken Burns want to elaborate on it, but what Jeffries said was had it been ten years earlier, he would have won. Hell, even Johnson after his career was over, said that Jeffries was the greatest HW champion of all time.

But if you want to throw around quotes, Joe Louis once said he could NEVER have beaten Rocky Marciano in his prime.

 

My source is not from the web and I didn't quote Jeffries, otherwise you would see quotation marks. The actual quote was even more demeaning.

 

I am not aware of any drug found in JEFFRIES body ,immediately after the fight he said he had been beaten fairly.
Later he allowed his name to be put to a story about drugged tea, I beleive this can be found in"Two Fisted Jeff ," by Hugh Fullerton.
I dont beleive Jeffries was drugged .What is undeniable is that he was years past his prime, anyone picking Jeffries over Johnson has as good a case as those picking Johnson over Jeffries imo, the thing is by its very nature ,ie The young Stag dethroning the old Stag, great fighters seldom meet in their prime.Johnson was in his, Jeffries was over the hill.
I pick Johnson over Jefffries, but no one should be dogmatic about this one,imo.Rather like saying Monzon beats Hagler , he may well have done ,equally it could go the other way imo.

 

I dont believe him to be drugged. If he was, then undoubtedly Jeffries was the toughest, greatest, heavyweight of all time---nobody drugged can go those one sided 15 rounds like that after having to lose 110 pounds and been inactive 6 years! But if he was, by God, the ring never had a greater fighter.

 

Maybe they put that stuff ,bute into him ,that they run horses on in the States?
Doesnt help you in a fight, but you can f**k for a week!

 

Strength/Size were Jeffries biggest assets and you dont lose them past prime or not. Johnson was the bigger stronger man pushing Jeffries round. Johnson is the better boxer, faster, better defense

 

To apeace the racist press/public?

 

If Johnson was in a court room he would be termed "an unreliable witness", he told more half truths and distorted more facts than anyone I know.
Well, actually that's not true ,there is one bloke