I'm ok with Crawford saying 147 or nothing

People can make excuses all they want, but this weight draining b.c. is just that a pile of horse s****.
If Spence want the rematch, he can fight at 147. Contract is clear the winner choice the division the rematch take place.
Crawford doesn't own Spence anything. If Spence want the rematch, he can fight at 147, or just move on.

This fight doesn't need rematch at all, as the result will be the same.
And i'm not a fanboy of Crawford, as you can check my post history. Neither i'm on Spence though.

 

Spence and PBC played their games w/ TC for years. Nothing suggests that ESjr will perform better at 154. I mean, let''s give TC some credit here for how ESjr looked. Could weight be a factor? Sure. Could TC just being better ALSO be a factor? Of course.

Did Tito look like Tito when he fought Hopkins? No. But he looked great before, then what? Hops was just the better man that night. TC's pummeling of ESjr shows he was just the better guy no matter what that night.

 

I agreed with pretty much everything, but isn't taking the fight at 154 more in line with his long term thinking if he's talking about moving up anyway?

 

IF...he's serious about titles at 154 or the ridiculous Canelo fight at 168, it would make some sense.

 

It's all conjecture at this remove, but this is pretty much what I think about the matter. He knows the clock is ticking and I think he actually wants Canelo and likes his chances. Not sure I do, but seeing as how I praised and supported Alvarez in moving up to fight Bivol, I gotta do the same in this case.

 

No disrespect but I'm not here for all this boxing politics ass kissing that be going on on these damn panels But once again as stated before based off of the evidence that was presented it's clearly evident that something was wrong with Spence whether it was being weight drained or whether he was going through some other type of health issues as stated earlier that went over that version of Spence means nothing because in his Thurman standing on it and hell virtual kids would have beaten that spence that particular night. I don't give a damn about what you feel or how bias you are against the PBC it is what it is but as stated Crawford deserves credit for being too time undisputed but when I hear people like you put them in the same class as the Oscars Vernon's Tito's and Floyd's that's where I have a problem with this fanboyism ever since I got involved with the boxing community I have came to the conclusion that the boxing community is one of the most biased communities in all the sports so you can believe the hype around Crawford all you want the truth is that particular spence would have lost the thermid Porter and any other top five welterweight that night. But there is a rematch and a rematch should be at 154 since Spence was compromised due to whatever reason why but even if Crawford does beat him again he still gets no credit for me

 

Has it occurred to you at all ESjr looked bad because TC made him look bad?? There are probably several reasons to look at with ESjr getting the crap beat outta him. But NONE of you naysayers seem to give TC his credit for just beating the crap outta ESjr.

 

No because they're fighters who were less than spence who did better than Spence Benavidez, Vava, Khan, Porter, and Ava did better than Aence and they are levels below him. That should tell you something. If it doesn't you are bias. It would've been one thing if the fight was competitive and Crawford stopped him late but that's not what happened. Again, Jeff Horn did better. Freaking Jeff Horn.

 

Bad analogy. Tito was too small

 

Except that's not always the case. Pac did better vs Hatton than Floyd did. He did better vs Cotto than Floyd did. Devon Alexander did better vs Maidana then Floyd did. Floyd is the better boxer than both. Hell, even Rahman did better vs Lewis than Tua did. And Tua blasted Rahman.

It's called 'Styles make fights'. And these boxer are human, not robots. Not going to look the same every fight.

There are more factors then just weight.

 

And yet, he beat the dickens outta the #2 MW at the time. KO'd Joppy something fierce.

 

Still too small for the elite Hopkins

 

In your world, all great fighters ONLY beat someone of exactly equal size, huh?

 

It's clear to see that you have some type of bias so argue with you get nowhere If you are this to God think that the Spence that fault Crawford was dispense that we've seen in the past something is wrong with you or you just dislike Al hayman in the PVC which is fine but again Jeff Horn which is basically you could argue a watered down version of Spence and a one-legged bit of vitas did better than spence Yes I do agree with the styles make fights argument but again no one I repeat no one with eyes will tell you that that was dispense that we were used to seeing You throw any fighter it is Virgil hell like sermon said even Sean Porter in there with that spence they beat him. Look at the punch selection Look at how quickly his face swelled up look at his eyes anybody with a brainer to would tell you that something was wrong with Spence that night it has nothing to do with styles make fights and those other fighters you mentioned above they're not even better than Spence so that defeats your argument just submit that you're a Crawford fanboy and just admit that you have something against the PBC

 

No, I'm just objective. I use contacts when talking about fighters I just don't give them credit because I have something against a certain color organization