I'm Okay If Clenelo-Bivol Has A Catchweight...

YOu forgot the worst drain weight. DLH. Fight was at a division DLH had not fought in 7 years. DLH was so drained, he couldn't rehydrate and weighed less than Pac fight night.

 

That was maybe the worst draining ever. Not only was he bone dry but he was old. He boxed like a statue that night. The draining made DLH dangerously unhealthy that night.

 

And yet...Oscar said he could make 147. Maybe we shouldn't believe everything a boxer says

 

Right. Or Winky Wright saying he'd come down from 160 to fight ODLH at 147. Guys say whatever they need to say to get the fight, then deal with the consequences later.

Bivol coming down at this point in his career for the first time against arguably the No. 1 pfp fighter is transparent. I don't blame him for it, but it would remove a lot of luster from the fight.

 

You see what I'm getting at? I anticipated your kind of response to this whole Canelo Bivol weight saga. That's why I preempted it with the other topic. No one's saying Lance that we should believe everything a boxer says.

There are important differences between every one of these catchweight draining situations and far too often everything involving Canelo gets exaggerated and we lose context when getting beyond the surface of negotiations. It was argued last week that it can't be blamed on Pacquiao that DLH agreed to come down to 147. Every fighter's always gonna say he can make the weight. That doesn't prove who demanded the weight. But saying you can make the weight and actually being drained are 2 different things. You can say that that DLH agreed to 147 all you want, and that Pac didn't insist on it, but that's just you defending your precious Pacquiao from criticism over weight demands. You can argue that Pac came from much lower weight but the same can be said for Canelo. He was fighting at 155 lbs 5 years ago. That's 20 lbs away from where you want him to fight Bivol at. Canelo is already fighting at Super Middleweight at a much higher weight class than anyone thought he ever would end up fighting at when he was fighting Mayweather Trout and Lara.

 

What a superb double bind, something tells me that the paragraphs won't flow this time.

 

these idiots think Pac v Oscar was a catchweight fight. They fought at the WW limit.

 

LOL I'm not saying that he did drain him, but I am saying that was probably the worst draining ever. The importance of this distinction seems to be lost on you. There's "who's fault was it" and then there's "how bad was it". Canelo constantly gets bombarded with the "it's his fault" all the time but none of the situations he's ever been involved in has ever resulted in a fighter being drained to the extent that DLH was vs Pac.

So whoever's fault that was, whether DLH made the mistake thinking he could go down a weight class safely, if he's in the same boat as Dawson was for thinking he could against Ward, those are situations that were much worse in terms of draining than anything Canelo has ever been involved in. Of course the weight difference between Pac and DLH was immense and for them to make that fight was surprising. But at the same time, from that point on, Pacquiao ended up fighting the rest of his career at 147 or above so in that sense Pac managed to do the unthinkable and still be very effective at higher weights. A lot of fighters can't just move up so many weight classes and be the best of the higher weight class. Only special fighters can do that. So in retrospect, yes Pacquiao was coming from a much lower weight. But in the end, Pacquiao ended up fighting at 154-lbs two years later vs Margarito. If Pac would have fought DLH at 154-lb, it probably would have been much fairer given DLH's age and inability to cut so much weight safely in retrospect. I doubt Pac would have been able to stop DLH if he would have fought him at 154.

 

I dont care about catchweight, let the man rehydrate properly though

 

Caught with your pants down, ignore it, spin and then come up with this drivel... Standard shadow

 

You thrive on ignoring context and trying to exaggerate the situation. I'm bringing balance and details to the equation. Naturally that threatens your whole agenda.