I'm picking Froch in the rematch

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TheDarkLord, Nov 25, 2013.


  1. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Controversial I know.

    On the basis that:

    Just sat through rounds 8/9 again (sound off) which left me of the opinion that GG won't be able to live with Froch for 12 rounds. GG was hurt twice in round 9 and saw how Froch might have gotten to him (The stoppage was total sh*t, absolutely terrible)

    Froch performance was hugely effected by the massive shot in round one. I'm convinced he was knocked out for a split second and suffered some sort of concussion. He then went on to fight like a man who was concussed. His timing was awful and he couldn't see shots coming.

    "Know thine enemy"

    Froch underestimated Groves, his speed, his power, his ability to stick to a plan and his toughness.

    Froch didn't prepare for a fighter of GG's caibre. Neither he nor RM really new the beast they would be facing. They know full well what to prepare for and I would expect RM to put together a very good strategy to neutralise GG's 1+2 that caused Carl problems.

    I'm pretty much alone on this one I realise that :D
     
  2. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Groves paces himself better, fights a bit smarter and doesn't make the same mistakes. The experience will help Groves a lot (the main thing he was lacking). Groves is improving. At his age Froch is probably on the decline.
     
  3. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Indeed you are, Froch only knows how to fight one way. Note I mentioned fight and not box. Froch's only chance is to turn any rematch into a brawl because Groves boxes that big fat beak of him.
     
  4. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure he can pace himself.

    A lot of his gameplan revolved around applying pressure and making Carl fight on the back foot. He looked vulnerable at times when Froch backed him up.
     
  5. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was doing that before the ref waved the fight off. So decent chance of doing it again then.
     
  6. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    I thought Carl was looking very slow on sat a may retire coz hes getting hit more than he ever used to
     
  7. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He took mountains of punishment.

    What about the shot in round one Billy you think that effected him in the later rounds?
     
  8. Rhodesie9

    Rhodesie9 Active Member Full Member

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    DL I don't think your view is controversial......I think at the time of the stoppage it had swung back to more of a fifty fifty........what happens if George doesn't connect early next time.We don't know what would have happened in fight one the rematch could go either way.
     
  9. Leif Erikson

    Leif Erikson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That could actually work in Groves' favour. Instead of fighting on instinct, Froch may well be gun shy because he fears being hit with such a punch again. Always waiting for the big shot to connect while Groves piles up the points without expending as much energy.
     
  10. Rhodesie9

    Rhodesie9 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes agree with that Leif,in fact just said so on another thread:D
     
  11. cool hand luke

    cool hand luke Member Full Member

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    I'm backing froch in the rematch if it happens, I think the big shot in the first would have finished any other Smw tbh. I think its catch 22 for George does he go all out early to avoid the later rounds? Or does he be more reserved and stick to a plan knowing he going to have to be strong for the later rounds. I think it's going to be great either way but I'm sure if groves can not get Carl froch out the way early, sooner or later he will catch up with groves
     
  12. luke

    luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch is 36 and there is nothing new he can add to his arsenal or mak his defence better

    Gg is going to pace himself better

    I see groves stopping him after roud 8/9 tbh
     
  13. Rangersfan1982

    Rangersfan1982 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That right hand took Froch about 4 or 5 rounds to get over it. Groves better hope he can land something similar early if they fight again. If not, I think Froch will stop him late.
     
  14. boxfanlut

    boxfanlut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Groves need to go downstars alot more than he did
     
  15. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    Wouldn't be surprised if Froch won either.

    Groves will automatically start the next fight a bit flatter and lacklustre than the first fight. The novelty of showing Carl up and shocking everyone with his ability would have worn off by the time bell rings for a rematch and he'll have a more serious, less flamboyant approach, which could ironically work against him as Froch might win rounds earlier in the fight and Groves may have to open up late in the fight which would suit Froch; a fighter that is just getting warmed up around that stage.

    The worrying thing is that Froch was catching Groves the last few rounds with wild swings - cuffing shots - that were wobbling Groves and leaving him vulnerable to the harder shots. Those shots he was taking at the end were leaving him on ***** street, and IMO he would have been stopped if Froch would've landed only a couple more. Froch was beating him to punch by that point as well and Groves has too much pride to accept getting out-fought so he'll always try to fire back instead of adopting more pragmatic tactics.