I'm picking Froch in the rematch

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TheDarkLord, Nov 25, 2013.


  1. Championship

    Championship Lineal Full Member

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    I think Froch sees out the opening round without getting knocked down next time, warms up properly and finishes Groves properly next time. He can't live with the combinations when they start coming in the later rounds.
     
  2. boxzone

    boxzone Active Member Full Member

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    Even though the fight was swinging Froch's way and he was starting to land it still does not make us forget the fact he was hit with hard shots and was hurt in ways that many of us aint seen Froch hurt before. He was down by Taylor which was more of a balance problem and he has been rocked by both Kessler and Robin Reid in the past but he was hurt constantly on Saturday night.

    There is noway we can look into this and yes Froch is a warrior but in the rematch Groves will develop with the experience he earned on Saturday. He will be wary and know what shots he has to throw to win and he knows that he has the power to hurt Froch and the speed to hit them sharp hook right hands which are devastating.

    I said before the fight I can see why Groves will win but I couldn't look past Froch and now I am saying I can see why Froch will win but I can't look past Groves.
     
  3. Larsso

    Larsso Member Full Member

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    if he didnt stop him the other night, he never will. Mans a machine. Cant think of many who get up in 1st and many who stay standing in 6th
     
  4. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he was landing the right hand easily enough in the first fight. Froch is no defensive wizard.
     
  5. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    Groves will win a handy wide UD in any rematch.....

    1. He wont get involved in a macho war this time, no need to...his speed alone was too much for froch..

    .2. The judges will be kinder to groves this time around, because **** knows what fight they were watching if they only had him one point ahead..nobody will want a repeat of that..
    3. The arena and crowd will be much more behind groves in the rematch. His image and stock has risen massively in the eyes of the fans and public now..

    .everything points to a changing of the guard. Groves will retire froch for good next time out, and froch knows it in his heart, mccracken knows it too...

    Also there's only so many times you can have wars like that at 36 years old, you go to the well once too often and its dry..
     
  6. Redondo5

    Redondo5 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can see the valid points in the OP... But what I can't fathom is how Froch will change... He is very limited in certain aspects like defence, footwork and hand speed.... The left hand will always be low and that chin will always be there for the right hand.... That aint changing with any gameplan... Because you can't rebuild froch at this stage of his career.

    groves needs has shown he won't fall the first time he gets hit..l but is still vulnerable and will need to trade much less... Something i have noticed he also struggle to avoid... He did well in the degale fight on the backfoot... And he will need to mix it up much more in a rematch.... Some rounds dictating and pushing carl back with jab amd right hands.... And other times sitting back at distance and countering the odd wild swing from froch...obviously ensuring froch doesn't build up any momentum.

    froch struggles with guys with fast hands and movement.

    groves from round 1 took Carls jab away - his best weapon against kessler was the jab... Yet he barely landed it against groves. in fact in the later rounds he was even weary of throwing it because more often he'd end up eating a counter shot.

    my bet would be on groves to stop Froch within 8 rounds. Even though i could see froch stopping groves... If groves can play a bit more safer at times while still making sure he lands his hard shots early to gain frochs respect... i think he will win because Groves will learn from this fight...Froch will always be Froch... Strong willed and determined but zero defence and without the jab he's toast.
     
  7. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If Froch wins a rematch I will give Billy Nelson a rimjob.
     
  8. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A rematch between the two will no doubt see improvements from both fighters, particularly Groves who is more adaptable than Carl. Froch however will have improved awareness of Groves and no what to expect better, there will be no element of surprise this time. To suggest Groves can just use his speed to outbox Carl over 12 rounds for a UD is a good gameplan however he will have to take it to Carl and hurt him throughout because Froch is too dangerous a fighter to simply try and just outscore over 12 rounds. Plus in a rematch Groves will know from the first fight Carl has the ability to back him up on the ropes and cause damage, Groves know this! A big telling factor for Groves to win a rematch will also come down to how much Carl has left in him as a fighter. One fight can change a boxer forever and Froch could be on the decline now so we won't know until a rematch takes place. If Froch turns up fresh and still hungry for a rematch I would fancy him to force another late stoppage win over Groves.
     
  9. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm with the OP on this one. It was one of those fights when everything went wrong from round 1 for Froch. He clearly wasn't prepared enough for Groves and underestimated him. I can see him ad******g better to Groves second time round. He won't be so reckless and will put his guard up and weather the storm early on. Groves on the other hand will probably pace himself more and be more elusive. He will still go for his shots but a repeat knockdown is less likely, due to Froch not rushing in so early.

    The more probable result will be a Groves UD, if he sticks to his/an original Adam Booth strategy. If he tires or tries to engage too much, then Froch has a good chance of stopping him. The second fight in some ways will be more interesting.
     
  10. Taylor2010

    Taylor2010 Arranging chromosome injections for injured boxers Full Member

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    I agree that I think Froch catches up to him at some point and stops him. I see the same result in a rematch
     
  11. utv

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    I'm going with Froch by KO in the rematch, I hope I'm wrong and Groves puts the arrogant twat to sleep but I think Froch will KO him legitimately next time round.
     
  12. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Froch gives him a rematch and legitimately wins, then this goes down as an all-time great comeback in my book. Groves is a very good fighter and dominated Froch in spectacular fashion. To come back and win would be close to remarkable.
     
  13. JACK McWAVEY

    JACK McWAVEY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so people have bought eddie's bull**** then smh
     
  14. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If a Froch who can't get much going after being very heavily dropped in the 1st can turn the fight around, he certainly can second time around when he's unlikely to get dropped so heavily early on.
     
  15. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We haven't forgotten what Froch has achieved in the past and still give a chance to come back. He's been a fine champion and come back in the past. Although I think Groves will win by UD, I'm still not counting Froch out especially after the way the fight ended, albeit prematurely.