I'm really worried Mijares is going to get robbed soon and the fans wont care.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, May 22, 2008.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Seems nobody cares about a great fighter nearly getting jobbed over twice here with his dominations of Navarro and Munoz. Mijares has to DOMINATE fighters just to get close wins on the cards, which is absurd and unfair, completely.

    So what happens if a competitive but clear happens? The opponent gets the ****ing decision and nobody cares that a great fighter that dares to unify and seek the best, putting on masterful performances gets robbed?

    Say Donaire-Mijares happens and Donaire manages to win 3 rounds, if he got the decision that would be a horrible thing, same with Montiel. What kind of garbage is it that Mijares has to win at least 9 or 10 rounds just to get an SD for these horrible judges?

    Then if somewhere down the line we get a 7 to 5, very clear for Cristian and the bout goes to the other guy wide, the fans will just say 'close fight, could go either way, you can make a case blah blah blah'.:rofl

    If this genius fighter keeps getting ****ed over like this, I hope fans will take his side at the very least. This kid had to work very hard to get where he is, he never had the big promotion behind him, nor did he even have an amatuer career and was brought in as the opponent that the main event fighter was supposed to easily deal with multiple times in the case of Maldonado, Kawashima, Arce and Lopez, yet he's been very dominant, a true gem.

    If the fans don't care in the likely event that this happens, I will be very irritated with boxing fans as a whole.
     
  2. joekirkbycobra

    joekirkbycobra King Of The Ring Full Member

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    i like mijares but i see what you mean
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Even if people are not a fan, any guy dominating opponents and having to do so just to get split decisions is corruption at the highest order and should stick up for the fighter.

    If this was the case with anybody, even guys I dislike like Pavlik, Taylor and Mayweather, I'd be irritated with the situation, assuming they had to dominate at 9-3, 10-2 decisions just to get a 7-5 decision on the cards. Boxing fans don't seem to even care and this guy is the best fighter under 126 bar none.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I agree with the thread fully. He's becoming the next Whitaker in terms of popularity with the judges.
     
  5. A Rock

    A Rock SAMUEL ETO'O!!!!! Full Member

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    fighters south of featherweight always get screwed, b/c no one cares about them. its a damn shame. i like mijares a lot too but im more of a montiel fan myself
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Montiel is an excellent fighter also, there are many very good fighters down there, even the B level guys south of 126 have a lot of skill and speed generally. But say Montiel gets himself 4 clear rounds, Mijares gets 8 clear rounds and then decision goes to Montiel by UD, with 8-4 scores...

    Wouldn't that be a tragedy?
     
  7. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Yeah, it's disgusting what's going on and it makes zero sense.

    I think at 115, he's so dominant that he will stop guys like Donaire and Montiel or drop 1-2 rounds to them max on national TV and if some kind of insane robbery happens on HBO/Showtime, the boxing world will care. But if it's on another 29.95 PPV in Mexico though, who knows. At 118 is where Mijares fans should really be worried. Imagine in 2 years if Mares improves and is still undefeated, a fight between them happens and Mijares clearly wins 8-4, but judges end up giving it to Mares. HBO (who will without a doubt be cheering/hyping Mares) will make it seem like it's an "either way" fight and make people watching it think that too. Mijares gets ****ed, Mares gets hyped, and no rematch happens. Then Mijares has to go looking for a title again, which isn't easy to do at those low weight divisions where titles are constantly held hostage.
     
  8. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    way to take a cheap shot at Donaire

    guys who are clearly losing get judges to vote for them because of ineffective aggression, if you watched Donaire atleast once in your life you would know Donaire isnt that kind of fighter

    other than that i see what you mean
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Who knows?

    He's a pure boxer, but a precision boxer and the opposite of the runner, hurts guys and mixes it up. Making Munoz miss 5-6 shots in a row and then landing a hard left uppercut should be considered entertaining.

    Why don't people enjoy precision boxing? Then can't differentiate that from these horrible runners who call themselves pure boxers?
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Mijares' chin is far too good to be KOed by Donaire, so Donaire is going to have to deal with Mijares' skill and precision all night, quite a task.
     
  11. Tunney5

    Tunney5 Active Member Full Member

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    If some sportswriters paid more attention to what's happened in the his two fights, that might help put some pressure on the boxing authorities to make sure the judging is fair next time.
     
  12. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    That 108-120 card judge Tucker gave in favour of Navarro had to be a mistake. Probably reversed the names.
     
  13. 168 lbs

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    Mijares needs to throw more, feller. He needs to throw more and put more punch behind those punches. No good just having the other feller walk into his punches, counterpunching. Mijares' biggest limiting factor is his relative lack of stamina, I figure; this is why he doesn't throw enough. His best recent performance was agains Navarro, who also gave him his hardest fight, recently. He didn't throw much against Munoz, particularly in the first couple of rounds.

    Mijares also needs to avoid more of those punches; his defence ain't good enough for a top fighter. Mostly, I think, he takes tose punches because he trusts his chin and because he is too tired to avoid them, because of his relatively poor stamina, rather than because of defective technique.

    If he ain't throwing enough and not being aggressive enough and not scoring enough powerpunches whilst getting hit too much by a feller who is aggressive, who is thowing a lot, who is scoring a lot of powerpunches and who is landing a fair amount too, of course some judges will see it close.

    I'm not sold on Mijares just yet, not as an elite fighter anyways. Need to see him against Montiel first. Montiel sure is fast an has a hell of a punch too; could hurt anyone. He ain't better than Navarro technically and he won't land as much, but could still hurt Mijares and even stop him late on.

    Anyways, feller MIjares is still young. He is not at his best just yet. I want to see me the feller going up and taking on the best there and show impovement - better stamina, avoiding punches more clearly, fighting more aggressively, throwing more and power-punching more. That's what the feller needs to do, I figure. Needs to start with Montiel, though.
     
  14. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mijares did have his output down in the fight against Munoz, but he threw a good number against both Navarro and Arce, and over his career he's been solid on punch volume. He creates good punching angles with his movement, can lead if he wants to, or play counter-puncher very well. In terms of defense, he could be more fundamentally sound sometimes by keeping his hands up a little more, but in terms of slipping/rolling punches he's one of the best in boxing atm. His only soft spot is power, but even so, his power is at least respectable, particularly when he generally tires out his opponents by making them miss, lessening their punch resistance, among other things.
     
  15. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    agree with what your saying, he always has to win well on the cards, and your right, most people probably wont care, but it happens in boxing:good