I'm saying it now, Wilder is the hardest hitting HW of all time.

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  1. BCS8

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    When Wilder rolled up his character stats he wanted to be a Tommy Hearns, but he didn't have enough points. So he put everything into strength and left skill at '1'.
     
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    This is way premature. Wilder has fought nobody's. Who has Ortiz really fought and how old is Ortiz for real? He had that old man movements in his legs and body to me.
    Wilder looked so unprofessional in there is was an embarrassment to the Heavyweight Championship. I can't think of one HWC who conducted himself that way.
    Yes his right is fast and it's hard but prove it against guys who have proven themselves against top tier fighters.
    The Jury is still out for me. He could be another Mac Foster for all we know so far.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    One other thing is that Wilder carries his power late. I though he might've lost it after being rocked, but not at all.
     
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  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's funny now Ortiz is now a frail old pensioner that can't fight for ****. Before he was King Kong, a fighter that nobody wanted to face and one that would be a stern test. I suppose that if Wilder beats Joshua all we will hear is that he beat a relative novice who only beat an old pensioner himself.
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    He was always old to me
     
  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And maybe put an extra point in the "survive when hurt" category?
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is what it is, he's been old for a good while now in boxing terms.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    68 people. Between that and the effect we can see his punches had on such extremely durable guys as Ali and Holmes we know he can certainly whack. The single left hook that flattened Lyle too and had him on ***** street. The single right hand that dropped Holmes was immense.
     
  9. Luthorcorps

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    Lol then you realize you are either a liar or stupid. The only fighter who said Shavers hit harder than Foreman was Ron Lyle. Ken Norton said he didn't know who hit him harder. Ali just said Shavers hit him so harder that his kin folk back in Africa felt it. Show me Foreman landing his best punches against Ali. What round did this take place. Jimmy Young never mentioned anything about Foreman or Shavers punching power. So as I said you are just a liar or just misinformed.
     
  10. Wass1985

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    68 who though? What quality fighter did he knock out? I'm not for one minute suggesting he couldn't bang but folk can't have it both ways when asked who did he knock out. I honestly believe that Wilder would have put the above fighters in more trouble if he landed his best shot on them.
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are both now go play in the dumb dumb section, i have heard that Shavers hit harder than Foreman from the people who have sparred and fought against them.
     
  12. Luthorcorps

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    Ali durable? You mean because of him fighting Frazier? Frazier for the most part never fought bigger heavyweights during his era besides Foreman. So who knows how his punches would of fared of against bigger guys? Ali was hurt by Doug Jones, knocked down with one punch by 180 pound Sonny Banks and almost knocked out by 1 punch by 190 pound Henry Cooper. Holmes on the other hand pretty much was a mover. You act like Holmes was known to stand toe to toe with elite punchers and take it. Holmes was almost knocked out by Renaldo Snipes who was never known for his power.
     
  13. Luthorcorps

    Luthorcorps Member banned Full Member

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    Who did Ortiz knockout? Skilled? You must be a young guy or just don't know boxing. Ortiz isn't skilled at all. Just a slow plondering fat guy.
     
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  14. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Really? Tell me the best guys that you would pick to lose against ortiz from the 70s and 90s
     
  15. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Agreed 100% these guys are drunk