Im So Pissed At Winky!!!

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  1. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    For not taking this fight seriously. If he beat Hopkins in convincing fashion he would have been considered the #1 best fighter today! Instead he came in underprepared against the best fighter he ever faced. That whole training in Vegas is bull****, he should have been up in the mountains isolated and training hardcore for this. The key for him winning this fight was using his normally high work rate to win the rounds on activity and you cant do that if you come in fat.:twisted:


    I hate seeing my favorite fighters loose.
    Kostya, Wlad, Morales, Lacy Ive all had to watch them get their asses kicked. Winky was the only one left that was consistant and I could count on.
     
  2. HandsOfGold

    HandsOfGold Member Full Member

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    If Winky trained "hardcore" for this fight he would have scaled in at probably 158 pounds and gotten pummeled because of the weight difference.
     
  3. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wasn't going to beat Bernard even if he trained harder. It was a difficult matchup for him, probably the worst he could face. He got his jab off early, but by the end of the fight he was just throwing wild punches, because Bhop had him figured out by like round 7. I don't think he'd ever beat Hopkins. And this is no disrespect to Winky, Hopkins is just too big and crafty for him.
     
  4. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    No matter what training Winky does, Bhops simply has his number. He looked bad because Bhops made him looked bad. Style wise Bhops will never allow Winky to play his game plan. Winky never had a chance to counter because Bhops won't trade he'll run and dish out 2 or 3 punches then clinch and just wait for the ref to separate them. Winkly was completely taken out of his comfort zone and was forced to chase Bhops swinging which is not his style.
     
  5. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think there might be more to his leg problems than just age. Looked like knee problems to me.
     
  6. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    By crafty you mean "dirty" right?:hi:
     
  7. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You must have missed the fight. Watch it before you post.
     
  8. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    The guy always comes in 100% and ready to fight. How do you guys then figure out that Winky was ill prepared this time?

    . . . I guess because he wasn't able to do what he used to do with his previous opponents. That's why I'm saying because Bhops made him look bad. :yep
     
  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    You win some and you lose some
     
  10. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Oh okay I'm getting you now . . . you are saying that 170 is not his weight class? :yep
     
  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well I don't know . . . in my view . . . he was simply taken out of his game that's why he look and came out like that. But give him another 170 pound opponent and you'll be thrilled by the guy again.

    I want to see him fight Calzaghe. JC would be a perfect opponent for him.
     
  12. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sounds like the fight was fixed. B Hop is more marketable & so it goes...
     
  13. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    give him a break winky is not a light weight and thats were his sluggish begin.he also undestimated bhops power and speed as well.he also fought bhops fight as well, he need that jab to get pumping but ww was fighting up hill since th head butt.
     
  14. jaycuban

    jaycuban Cubans Do It Better ! Full Member

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    Winky Right, won that fight... hes the best fighter in the game next the Mayweather... hands down
     
  15. Mook

    Mook Member Full Member

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    Wright's problem has been one that has been waiting to be exposed for a few years. He's just high jab output and tight guard. I noted that he tried other things in this fight, and that's when he got countered.

    He did well when he went back to plan a, often catching BHop with the jab (I was surprised by this though, I thought a boxer would need a bit more complexity to his game than that). He lacks a plan b that he is able to properly execute, but his plan a nearly always works.

    for me there were two points in the fight, and that's the real difference between them: BHop has that little extra that makes him one of the greatest fighters to lace up the gloves, whereas Wright is just (but it's still an impressive 'just') one of the outstanding boxers of his decade.