Im sorry but if GGG beats Canelo no way is he p4p #1

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  1. Earfquake

    Earfquake Member banned Full Member

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    I must have missed the part where Ward was losing at the time of the stoppage? Can u post those official scorecards again please?
     
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  2. Earfquake

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    Im sorry Sugar. When I asked you to give me a list of guys that ducked Golovkin that people wanted him to fight I wasnt expecting you to include a guy that hasnt been relevant in about 7 years. I asked you not to include Cotto yet you did even though we both agreed he had no business in the ring with Golovkin. You gave me a list of guys like Sturm, Taylor, Zbik etc. A bunch of guys I had no interest in seeing Golovkin fight. Didnt/Dont need to see those fights. Only decent one you have is Saunders that is legit. Other than that its just a bunch of guys who were around before Golovkin becamse a household name.
     
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  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Who do you think would have put a better fight IBF holding JT or 168 Dawson?
     
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  4. Liquid Fire

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    You see the problem you are going to have now sweetie is how are you going to argue for Ward being p4p for beating a "Tomato Kan Krushing, paper titlist, geriatric slaying, non lineal/never the man" LHW?
     
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  5. Liquid Fire

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    Ward hasn't beaten 'Stevenson the man'?

    Exactly WHO has Ward beaten?
     
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  6. Earfquake

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    Are you talking about dawson fighting ggg at 168? Because we were talking about Golovkin fighting IBF holding Taylor at 160. Im not sure what you are trying to say by bringing Dawson into this
     
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  7. Earfquake

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    He beat the other guy in his division ranked in the top 5 on every p4p list. Stevenson dont even hit top 20 on lists. And he beat him twice and stopped him once.
     
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  8. Liquid Fire

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    It's a sarcastic parody post mate. Those are his words not mine... He never rated Kovalev.
     
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  9. Earfquake

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    Ok mate!
     
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  10. Todd498

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    LMAO :risas3:
     
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    :meparto:
     
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  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I'm asking you if you think a defence against JT would be more or less legit than Ward's defence against Dawson. It's a separate question I wanted to know your opinion on with you not being dismissive of Taylor as a potential opponent.
     
    Sugar 88, Jul 7, 2017
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  13. Earfquake

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    Well. Seeing as how Dawson was sort of the man at 175 at that point. And agree to go meet Ward. Id have to say Ward/Dawson. Not because thats such a legit/great fight or anything. But when Taylor held the IBF he was so far gone from being relevant and who he was. Dawson was still at least semblance of his peak.

    Lets put it this way. GGG later fought a guy that barely beat(some question if he actually did) that old Soliman that Taylor beat for that IBF strap. And it was considered a garbage fight/defense for Golovkin. Dawson was still rated p4p wise when he fought Ward. Taylor wasnt relevant or near his prime form.
     
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  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    See I struggle to see a difference yet see Ward given a load of credit by many for that win. Dawson had looked poor for a long while and the only people who had him on p4p lists were those who dickride any American champ.

    I really think JT had more to offer at that point. It was that long before that he was tooling Froch for the majority of a fight.

    The other thing Golovkin haters, who tend to love Ward miss is that it's not up for debate that Ward has had all the fights he's ever wanted gifted to him on his own terms whilst that Kazakh guy got shat on by everyone promotionally.
     
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  15. Todd498

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    Lol THEY are pathetic aren't they?!
     
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