I'm sorry, but Wlad beats Dave.

No scenario is impossible wehn two **** chins meet big punchers. Styles mean **** all, plus the fact that Haye iss up for it, and Wlad would look **** scared at the prospect of me

 

Going back 12 months ago i would of dis agree'd with you as i was adament Haye was gonna walk through the HW's , but i can thank Haye for shedding some light on the HW divison upon him doing so i became aware of how good the bros are whether you like watching them or not , i think Wlad is now at the absolute peak of his career , he is an unbeleivebable physical specimen , technically he is so good , everything is perfect , he does have that upright Euro style which is not so attractive to watch but hey , and if im honest now i dont give Haye a prayer !!!!!!

I remember watching Wlad Chagaev thinking man this guy was ready for Haye , and as you do when your watching a fight and your thinking what would Haye do that Chagaev isnt , and i really beleive the best Haye weve ever seen (which would have to be Barret @HW) would of had fits with Wlad on that night .

While i think Wlad is the better technician of the brothers , Vitali is more durable , well rounded and has more in his locker than Wlad , he could beat Haye more convincingly than Wlad imo , as i beleive he could spoil Haye , make him look bad as Hopkins does and then pick him off late on .

In summary against the bros i now beleive Haye is the underdog , and with the recent quotes of i may not have to fight a Klitschko im starting to beleive Haye knows he's not beating them , and may be happy to be a champion of sorts and getting good paydays in the UK knocking over bums ................ , his days to secure a big fight are running away , and if he doesnt get one signed soon Wlad , Vit , Adamak / Arreola winner , im swithcing off to the fella !!! :deal

 

Slip the jab on the inside, overhand right....continually. Hit Wlad hard and early, really have a go whilst fresh and hitting your hardest, not totally **** or bust, but heavy rights followed by heavy left hooks.
Awfully tough fight for David,that jab is just sooo good,but it can be done.

 

If you're a betting man it would be sensible to go for Wlad but when you re-watch Barrett, Sanders and Purity you've got to give Haye a decent chance.

 

The question is, what will Wlad do if his jab is taken away? Is he adaptable enough to work mid-range or with lead rights?

I'd say no, but it's a big if to whether Haye can negate the jab. The simplest way is to bob and weave - but that's not how Haye fights.

 

I think Haye will play it very cagey and, madness as it would be for most heavyweights, look to counter on the outside.

Agreed that evading that jab is absolutely key. If you can't avoid that, Wlad beats you.

Haye's the underdog, but I feel more confident about Wlad than I do about Vitali.

Vitali's age is becoming an issue, but he still throws a surprisingly large amount of punches for such a large guy and would easily be able to outwork Haye. Haye's much more of a potshotter since the Thompson loss. Plus Vitali has the chin to stand up to those rapid bombs.

Even if Wladimir is battering him about, you'd still be giving Haye that puncher's chance to loop in one of those fast left hooks or overhand rights and rattle Wlad's brain up.

 

The more I think about it the more I fall on the side of a Wladimir stoppage win.

He'll do what he always does, keep Haye at range with the jab, avoid taking any big shots whilst occasionally trying to land his own. Eventually he will wear Haye down.

I hope I'm wrong. Haye needs to bring something new to the table to beat either Klitschko.

 

You need to consider the build up to the fight. If Haye can get under his skin like he did last time with the shirts, and get Klitschko to open up, he will have a good chance at countering and landing a huge bomb on his fragile chin.

Also, in parts of the Chambers fight, Klitschko shown that if you start to move your feet, he chases your shadow.

Finally, I heard Booth say that they have spotted a huge flaw in the Klitschko's gameplan and can't he doesn't understand why people haven't taken advantage of it.

I reckon that this fight will go Valuev-ish with a bit more action, and if the is in England, Haye will get a decision, if it isn't, Klitschko will get a decision

:bbb

 

i think both klitscko's will beat david haye,they will land more than ruiz did and this reflect in hayes speed coz if he aint good his speed what else does he have both vlad and vitali punch every bit has hard imo and have a better jaw as well

 

i think counter and counter hard hayes got the seed and the power to ko wlad


also if they can somehow nulify wlads jab the job is as good as done i cant see wlad being able to fight any outher way than jab jab jab

 

The blue print to beat Wlad has been laid. You need to put pressure on him quickly. I think the fight will start cagey with both fighters waiting for the other fighter to commit. A little bit like the first round of Haye vs Macca. I think eventually Wlad will commit to a puch and Haye will jump over the top throwing bombs.

It will be kill or be killed and will be thrilling to watch.

In this case I think Haye gets the Kill!!!

 

Haye has no head movement? Really, i would say he has some of the best head movement around especially in the heavyweight division.

Wlad will be ultra tentative knowing Haye has the power to KO him, Haye will slip the jab and counter with the big straight right, when that happens it will be game over, Wlad will as he always does, enter panic mode and Haye wont let him off.

Job done in a couple of rounds.

Ps Wlads jab looks great against plodders who stand right in front of him with their gloves up, Haye moves about, when was the last time Wlad fought someone who did that?

 

against vitali had i have this image of david throwing all his right hands at vitalis surgically repaired shoulder and of it breaking and haye winning ala byrd

 

I expect it to be a cagey fight too you just have to imagine Wlad being extra wary of Haye because of the power and Haye likewise probably knowing anything decent will ko him the stamina wont be an issue because it wont be a high intensity fight expect haye's tactics to be stay out of range of even the Klitschko jab and let him chase him then quickly fly in with a flurry to try and catch him then revert to cagey distance almost like the Valuev match but expect Haye to throw with more authority if he gets close enough

 

Neither of the klits are great boxers, tough fights yes but winnable ones