:| He just won, try not to cry about it too much. Heavyweight Champion of the world baby Unlike the yank fatties.
Haye won that fight. You have to look at fights as: 00. Punches landed. 01. Fighting the smart fight. Bangers bang. Boxers box. When a boxer bangs or banger boxes? Classic. 02. Fighting the effective fight. Whatever game plan is right, do you work it to the fullest? I think in this case you have to side with Haye. Valuev had all of the advantages. He was supposed to keep distance, double-triple the jab, and land the big straight. Forcing the smaller man to work his way in. What did he do? Follow his man and look like crap. Valuev has the physical attributes to shut dudes down, but he just doesn't. In this case you have to give it to Haye.
Andrew I take offense (Yes with an S! You "cheeky" *******, hahaha) to that, but I must cede the point. American heavyweights are all line backers in the NFL. We are hurting. Still Dirrell beat Froch's ass! Hahaha!
actually i watched the fight in HD 32 in screen on Sky sports box office:hi: I had haye winning easily. By the way i scored the froch v dirrell for Dirrell. i cant see the double standards?
Thank you for reasonable post. Valuev connected jabs in every, and I mean every round. If you count only power shots, you may stand that Haye won. But those light jabs were in front of Haye's face all night! This is boxing and not bar fight! Valuev controlled the tempo by his jab and smart movement (!). Haye run for 2:30 minutes in a round and then jumped in to throw some bombs. I can't just give a round for something like that. Especially when his rival worked the whole round!
You're being unreasonable. Let's get things straight. I agree that Haye wasn't spectacular, and he certainly didn't pull off a huge victory. However, the fact remains that he connected much more when he hit Valuev, his punches were cleaner and more accurate, and his defensive movement was very effective. At times he would drop his hands altogether and dodge Valuev's punches with head movement alone. You seriously can't give the fight to Valuev when the guy hardly touched his opponent. Haye wasn't much more active, but the few times he threw, he landed and he landed pretty well.
Good for you if you scored it for Dirrell. What were Sky commentators reactions after the verdict last night?
You can't score a fight for a man just walking at somebody, you have to land clean and effectively. I thought we were going to have another Froch vs Dirrell last night, where the aggressor landed few and very far between, and the slickster who landed hard, clean, effective shots was robbed of a victory. I thought Haye looked good, showed good skill and effective power. His reflexes and defence were second to none. Valuev looked amateurish when you compare it to Haye's controlled performance. Haye didn't have to control the centre of the ring or walk down his opponent; he done all his effective work when Valuev opened up with those slow and meaningless jabs. Good fight for Haye, good victory, and I don't see another HW out there capable of beating him with his shear raw natural ability.
Well for a start I'm not American. So I don't care about whether Haye is American or not. Secondly I predicted a Haye win by 116-112. So I am not exactly worried about something I was 100% correct about. But his fans are ****ing something else.
Your poll doesn't make for pretty viewing at the moment. And the bit in bold......................................:rofl:rofl:rofl............What the **** were you watching, an old re-run of Valuev-Beck? Maybe you should rewatch the fight...........The Haye v Valuev one this time.
Dude do you think valuev won the fight?? He won like one or two rounds maximum. Haye did what he had to win, not in spectacular fashion but he won