Im tired of People saying Martinez was shot after Cotto beat him!!!

shot after? sorry but i thought the general consensus on the forums was "martinez got this aslong as his healthy" the martinez that rocked up to the fight was clearly a shadow of his former self. thats why i cant wait for cotto v canelo

these fanboys are going to see cotto dont belong at 160, hell you could argue he dont belong at 154

 

You are correct, there is video evidence that the knee is actually no excuse at all whatsoever. In the "cerebrality of Cotto" video it shows that the major blows that Cotto hit Sergio with in the first leading to his eventual demise had nothing to do with an inability for Sergio to evade. As, Sergio was actually throwing a punch both times when he were majorly rocked. It had absolutely nothing to do with knees and everything to with Sergio's ill fated miscalculations in combination with Cotto's skill. Hater's are welcome to cry all they want, it's what they do best anyway.

 

Can't really speak on Martinez health.

But I truly believe this Cotto is better than he's been before. His stamina looks better, strength better, durability. This is an old school coach that teaches offense. Cotto never been chinny, sure he's been caught, but always worked through it.

It was always his durability and more recently he lost his ferocity and body attack which he was always known for. His next fight will be big and should answer any doubts..

 

Well he did look like a 39 year old athlete. Compare that Martinez to the one in 2012 and you can see the obvious difference.
Its similar to De La Hoya from Mayweather vs that of Pacquiao but not as severe.

 

Only I won a few ban bets with this one. I know Martinez was ready to go, and cotto got the speed and deliverance to do it. Murray, Macklin Chavez jr are just natural middleweights, or super middleweights, and the speed and athlieticim of Martinez meant he outboxed em, but there were signs he could go. And cotto knows how to deliver that left hook better than those 3 middleweights. He's an elite fighter, the others not.

 

i picked martinez you are right as most did, but youd be silly to state martinez hasnt declined significantly since the chavez jr fight

 

****... I think a pre Roach Cotto was a even shot with Canelo. I think Cotto now simply outclasses Canelo...

But I do think whatever Martinez had left, Cotto stole that night. A good fighter on the slide can last a long time against mediocre competition, or even slower paced boxer types. What Cotto and roach did was take everything from Martinez reserve early, they ate the meat and left the bones. Martinez bones weren't strong enough to fight the physical fight that Cotto was ready for..