I'm tired of seeing boxers looking sluggish in their mid 30's

Yeah, damn *******s showing their age. How dare they?

Couture does not look like a beast at all, he may have won the lottery of genetics, but he's not elite, not for cagefighting anyway. MMA is a little different age wise. You can go for a few more years, I'm not really sure why but I'm sure someone'll probably be able to explain.

 

Fighters today don't fight as often as the fighters of old... You got the ultimate ***** in Floyd Mayweather Junior. Also, less activity means quicker decline.

 

Agree with what? :huh

 

Styles have a lot to do with it, and the physical qualities of certain fighters. Couture as you stated is a wrestler and still has something left in the tank. Chuck Liddell on the other hand is monstrously ****ed.

Now for a boxing comparison look at Hopkins and look at Jones, I don't need to explain that I think.

As also stated activity has crippled some fighters, de la Hoya for example is a perfect example of why someone should not make professional boxing part time.

 

It depends on your style, level of opposition throughout your career. How you train is very important also, a lot of fighters leave it all in the gym before they ever get to the ring.

 

Fighters are fighting better and much longer these days than in the past (At an elite level). What are you talking about?

 

Spoken like someone who has NEVER been in the ring!!!!

 

How old is the T.S.?

I'm 33 and in good shape and I feel 50 times worse than when i was in 25 and in the same shape. I can't do the **** I used too.

 

Since when?

The last guy he fought with a pulse was Lesnar and everyone knows what happened there.

Dana White has got him fighting a bunch of nobodies. And yes that includes James Toney. I bet if he fights any of the top fighters in MMA he would be destroyed. Hell I think George St. Pierre would destroy him also.

 

I think this is down to bad living, guys like Oscar De La Hoya i presumed once they made a million. He would only really get into heavy training during a training camp..............

He may have been fighting twice a year some times, and each training camp maybe 8 weeks long...?

For the rest of the year, I'm not saying he was boozing and eating aload of crap. But compared to other sports, like athletics, swimming, football. Some boxers don't train all year round at professional level. In my opinion there are very few gym rats, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones, Evander Holyfeild, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley.............these guys where in some sort of training all year round. Maybe because of vanity, or just fear of loosing and literally getting old.

Sometimes i think Professional boxing, is less professional then the amateur game. Most these guys coming up in the amateur ranks, would be in the gym everyday. Just having fun, just ticking over and keeping themselves in regime shape, without even thinking about it....

 

No I dont agree with you, back in the day a fighter was considered old when he hit 30... the reason for that is because they actually had to fight to get a bigger purse and not just fight but win as well...
Now and days you play the hit and dont get hit BS call it an art make lots of money pick and choose who you want to fight and basicly hold the fans the sport and the titles hostage until your old as ****.

 

Good Lord, Im going to agree with you. I see it all the time, these amateurs in the gym working their asses off day in day out and they really ramp it up when theres a tourney coming up.

On the other hand, they are younger generally than pros with usually less damage or mileage on their bodies they are mostly teens, some early twenties, I had endless energy then too. Sometimes, you just get tired as you age.

 

You sound shocked.

Some fighters are in bad physical shape, and in bad health. Of course you get tired when you get older, but some fighters are really pathetic.

Because they live like average people in between fights. Oscar De La Hoya when he was young lived like an athlete, an athlete's trainning never stops. It's not about killing yourself all year round, it's about having set routines when your in competition and out of competition.

Guys like Oscar De La Hoya, became civilised and unproffessional as the years rolled on. Bernard Hopkins & Evander Holyfield are proven evidence that if you stay in regime, you will stay in incredible shape. Proven fact, the human body reacts to a stimulus, and is in constant remodeling mode..!

Proffessional boxing in my opinion, is not as proffessional as amatuer boxing in terms of trainning and discipline. When i used to go to boxing, i was terrifeed to miss a trainning session, if i missed a trainning session, i had to have a legitment reason. And i had not even had my medical done, at the time.......

Infact people give Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley credit for being gym rats. I personally think this is pathetic aswell, there ****ing athlete's. Linford Christie was 37 years old when he retired from international sprinting, in a sport and event where afew hundreds of a second can end your career, athlete's in many sports train all year round and enjoy it.........and don't get no credit for being in shape all year round.

How hard is it really to go to the gym all year round, or just workout from home.....? it's not hard. I'm been sick these past few months, been in debt and not able to afford gym membership. But i'm still in better shape than 85% of the country.

Some boxers are simply just not professional, it's the most unprofessional sports in terms of preperation, in the whole world in my opinion.

You don't see out of shape Swimmers, Track and field sprinters, middle & Long distance runners.

But you actually see people who are generally in bad health fighting, weather it be clinically obese, or just basically ****ed over like Fernando Vargas.

It's like he has thyroid problems.

Back in the 70's or even old schooler days. Boxers where more proffessional, and had a mor proffessional atitude to training. Even lazy fighters training wise like Muhammad Ali, where very concious at times about there shape...........i rememver watching a TV show weight in, leading up to the Norton vs Ali fight. And they where both getting weighed, and Ali was bragging about being 215 or 220.

These days Heavyweights......don't give a ****.

 

No. You have no idea what you are talking about.

10-20 years ago it was almost unheard of for a boxer to cross 30 let alone be dominant into his late 30's. Those fights were like "masters" tournaments. This "old boxer" ish is NEW.

Then you go on to compare a pure striking combat sport with one that contains wrestling shows you have no idea what you are talking about. Then your example is a wrestler?

Why don't you go box, spar, then do some BJJ, spar. Then tell us if a 35 year old "getting tired" is "weak". The fact that these guys are doing this in their 30's is amazing.