Im using this list I made when people say boxing is dying

Look at the huge superfight coming up, Christy Martin Vs. Sam Peter.

 

Yeah, it's exiting to be a boxing fan right now. But please kindly take Khan off that list and toss his name in the garbage, then you'll be doing right by the other names on that list that are real fighters.

 

Floyd Mayweather is bringing the biggest fights in boxing right now he deserves to be in the list despite not being too active.
*EDIT: Joe Calzaghe?

 

Come on man, you can't really say Khan isn't a real fighter at least not this early.

 

That's fair then but we both know he WILL fight the winner of Cotto/Margarito anyway. The Hatton fight was also unexpected and all of a sudden announced after a bull**** retirement. But it's all good considering you're judging it by what he actually said. :good

 

I despise the absurd hype on a fighter who's destined to be a failure at the world class level, a millionare due to the ability to be marketed heavy, not a fighter who's had to work for everything he's had in the professional ranks like some of these extremely hard *******s.

It's been a joke, really, if you want to develop a great champion, you do it the old school way, not make every tomato can smashing a spotlight and make him an instant celebrity and plaster his face everywhere, that's just the intent to make money off of his name.

I'll take REAL proven hard top fighters and prospects, not little boys whom are overhyped. Sure, he's a real fighter and deserves the respect for stepping in the ring and beating a few competent fighters, but he's not even in the mix IMO and never will be, yet he's hyped like he's a future ATG to ridiculous extents.

It never ends. Nothing against him personally, but I'm tired of such practices.

 

I actually think alot of the same applies to Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., he may be even worse. He's been matched soft the whole way, struggled with absolute rubbish, and been silver-spoon-fed PPV headlining spots because of his pedigree.

And some seriously deluded people consistently buy his events and pick him as an eventual division ruler. atsch

 

Chavez Jr. will amount to very little, Khan even has more potential and you'll rarely ever find me saying such. He just lacks any real physical ability that Chavez Jr.

I hate red carpet rides. You can claim Gamboa's been given a ton of money already and massive hype, but they are feeding him some tough, tough opposition so early, he's having to work for his hype and money, they aren't just picking guys with nice looking records on paper that suit him well and having him easily destroy them, throwing him in with Jimenez this early was bold. So I could never give Gamboa the rating of recieving a 'red carpet ride', like other olympic stars have.

Chavez Jr hasn't even fought cans with shiny records, he's fought down and out dented tomato cans for the most part. Respect to those guys, but thats what they are.

 

So much of what you say in regards to the hype is true, but it has become personal with you. You refer to him as "garbage" you say he does not deserve to be mentioned even as an exciting prospect. You dismiss guys like Limmond as "cream puff journeymen". Limmond has lost once when he fought Khan and that was against Alex Arthur. Likewise although past his best Graham Earl had just been in a great fight with Katsidis, was floored and came back to drop and badly hurt Kat and then took his bombs and was well in the fight at the stage the corner stopped it.

Khan blew Earl to bits inside a round.

He is overhyped, it is ridiculous that he is the celeb he is, but you can hardly blame a young, working class lad for what is essentially the work of Warren, ITV and the wider British media.

However you cut it, he was a top class amateur who at 17 years of age won a silver medal at the Olympics, only losing out to an ATG amateur fighter in the final and still held his own.

He has shown clear improvements as a pro and the kid is only 21 years old.
To say you are harsh on him is an understatement.

How is Katsidis deserving to be on the list, but Khan not? Kat is 27, has lost in his last fight, struggled with someone who Khan obliterated and has a record made up of absolute nobodies.
He is also made out to be a murderous puncher when he is simply quite heavy handed. He failed to stop guys like Liendo who went 8 rounds at Lightweight with him, but was KO'd COLD in 2 rounds by Naseem Hamed at Featherweight.

He also failed to keep Earl down and landed flush time and again. I like him and he is exciting to watch, but there is no way he deserves to be seen as a better prospect than Khan.

 

Arthur is a C level fighter, so what? Limond at lightweight is nothing but a light hitting domestic cream puff fighter in comparison to real international gate keepers. The domestic scene in the UK is weak.

Yeah, convince me Earl wasn't paid for this also. I wouldn't be surprised.

I said nothing against him personally, I am attacking the absurd celebrity/pop culture figure/overhyped boxer that his entity is when I shred him. I don't know the guy in person, I don't care to.

When have I bashed his amatuer achievements and what does that have to do with what he's shown professionally for his mountain of sickening hype?

He's also fought a lot of no threat opponents, lowest of the barrell for winning records.

I am on every no hope hype job, it's not a Khan thing, Khan's just one of the worst, I've never seen anything like it. A novelty sell to the idiot public taken to the worst extreme.

I didn't see Kats on there, but don't regard him as much either and never have. I wouldn't put him on a list with the intentions stated.

Yeah, he's very average. A fun TV fighter, that's about it.

Again, I don't endorse Katsidis as a particularly notable 'top fighter', he clearly is not. But he also doesn't have a mountain of a hype train behind him, if he did, I'd be tearing his **** to pieces in debate with his moronic over-hypers.

 

A C Level fighter seems a tad harsh, but in the grand scheme of things maybe. I just want to know what you would class as a good win for Khan. You have said he will be starched long before the top flight so would somone like Romanov class as a good win?

Well that kind of ends any point in the debate doesn't it? Basically if Khan gets any good win, you can just say "He was probably paid" and then we can discredit anything he ever does by saying the guy was paid off.:roll:

That is fair enough and I agree.

It has nothing to do with the hype, but it does have to do with whether or not he deserves to be seen as a promising talent or whether there is no basis to thinking he is a talented fighter at all.

Agreed, he is being matched with none punchers.

 

How many other "Real" fighters have accomplished as much as him at 21?