Imagine if all fighters had the same mentality as Tyson Fury

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I meant that even if Wilder's resume is even thinner that doesn't make Fury's any less thin. I wasn't comparing to Wilder's resume at any point. Ffs.
     
  2. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Kevin Johnson and Martin Rogan? Who gives a **** about those guys? No one is judging Fury's resume based on Martin ****ing Rogan. I completely forgot Fury ever fought Rogan actually.

    Wlad was indeed older when Fury faced him -- and I do tend to believe Fury might've lost to a Wlad who was just a tad bit younger -- but Wlad was also considered damn near invincible and unbeatable when Fury faced him. Therefore, I still give Fury full credit for having balls to take the on the best of the best with Wlad.

    When Fury faced Wlad, Wlad was the best of the best. Undefeated in over 10 years. Rarely losing more than a round each fight.

    When Fury faced Wilder, Wilder was undefeated and almost seemed damn near invincible -- at least to me -- with his strategy of "[You] have to be perfect for 12 rounds, I only need to be perfect for two seconds."

    That's what matters to me. That's what Fury's resume and legacy are built on.

    AJ can fight all the Povetkins, Pulevs, Takams, and even Parkers, that he wants. Those guys are "good," but it's not the same.
     
  3. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    who gives a shyte
    you don't like fighters fighting geriatrics get your boy does it and it's
    Who gives a ***** lofl
    I see you move your standards up and down
    to as and when it suits
     
  4. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    You're another "RESUME LOVER". Resumes are one thing i don't pay much attention to in the HW division as the division is ****ing weak and full of bums. A guy like Hughie Fury is a nice win on paper for Pulev but let's be honest...Hughie isn't even a Top 20 HW in the world right now who cares about that win? It's about as good as Chisora beating Szpilka in the UK.

    If you look at Chisora these days he was competitive with Whyte twice, one time he was about to beat him on the cards but got knocked out late and one time he probably won the fight. I know Delboy had these 2 or 3 fights where he looked unmotivated, out of shape and lost (Kabayel, Pulev coming to my mind) but he's on a decent run and showed decent performances over the last 2 years and finally had a very solid fight with Usyk. I know people giving him no credit for that because they either say the cards were ****ed up or going another route in saying Usyk isn't a real HW and will do **** in the future.

    I saw Pulev with Hughie and i saw Pulev with Booker and if you really rate these performances higher than Chisora vs. Whyte 2 or Chisora vs. Usyk, then you probably should need to check your eyes and visit a doctor. Pulev was doing okay against AJ for a couple of rounds and he won a couple of rounds, fair enough, but overall Pulev is an old man who looked pretty much shot or at least close to being shot in his last 4-5 while Chisora went toe to toe with guys like Whyte or Usyk. I'm not hyping Chisora up to a legit Top 10 HW but he's solid and i'm pretty sure he would beat Pulev today.

    I'm not "wrong" on this one. I'm pretty much spot on but you guys just biased as **** with your opinions and not seeing the whole picture. You just see resumes and records and H2Hs and it's a fact because of that. No. And denying that Pulev is stylistically a pretty bad matchup for Chisora is just ridiculous. Of course he is. And thats the reason why he beat him. Nevertheless...Pulev is an old man these days who barely got past guys like Dinu or Booker. He's definitely not a better win than Chisora in 2020. And even prime Pulev hasn't beaten anyone of notice if you exclude the Chisora fight which was like i said a very favorable matchup for him. His best three wins apart from Chisora are Ustinov, Hughie and Tony Thompson. Add Dimitrenko to that list if you want. So resume-wise Chisora isn't far behind him with wins over Takam, Price, Szpilka and Scott. He was also robbed like **** against Helenius. He won that clearly. So let's be honest...your judgement is based on the Pulev vs. Chisora fight. Or do you want to tell me that wins over Dimitrenko, Ustinov, Thompson and Hughie are better wins than Helenius, Price, Takam, Szpilka and Scott? That's what i was talking about. People just looking at one fight, in that case Pulev vs. Chisora, and saying Pulev is a better win because he beat Chisora. That's Bull****.

    A can lose to B but A can still be a better win for C compared to B.
     
  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I'll be honest i kinda lost interest when you called me a resume lover
    One check of my post history would disprove that

    I think your wrong, there you go
     
  6. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    I think you're a clown so get the **** out of my way and stop quoting me in the future you little *****.
     
  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    No xx
     
  8. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Thanks *****.
     
  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I just disagree with you and your retort is name calling
     
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  10. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then boxing would be full of fighters dodging rematches, cherrypicking bums even after coming off world title fights and making up mental health stories for publicity.
     
  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    If fighters had furys mentality they would go awol into retirement and suffer depression.
     
  12. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A.J is worse than prime Povetkin in 225 lbs despite he is large and heavily protected hometown A side fighter - bodybuilder.
    Ofc, this older Povetkin's version was beatable for him and THEREFORE had been picked up to make credit with hotmetown fight vs away corner old Povetkin. Prime Povetkin had lost only by decision vs large and skillful Wlad.
    Prime Povetkin KTFOed A.J and also Vlad, Witali, Lewis in their prime had KTFOed A.J if these fights happened vs them in their prime.
    Ofc, over the hill Povetkin did not had anything for prime Povetkin, not alone for cherry picker bodybuilder A.J in his own backyard.

    WoW, A.J : entertainment star that did not had Usyk but 39 y.o Pulev in the ring.
    Nice safe choice. geriartric championship opponents lineage had continued despite had been interrupted by Ruiz.
    Too, really underdog before 1st fight.
     
  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How has this anything have to do with the simple statement that facing two ranked fighters in a 12 year career isn't anything that champions should emulate?
     
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  14. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It will be possibly be well over a year before Fury fights again. Is it only Joshua or Wilder that he’s interested in fighting? As WBC champion, doesn’t his have to make an mandatory defence of the title belt sometime soon?
     
  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ohh, if about WBC, this is funny story.