Imagine if Bellew somehow landed his best shot on usyk..

bellew will spark him.

 

I just don't think there is big money in this fight at Heavyweight.

I can understand it at cruiserweight because it would have all the belts on the line and that sells big, its history, people would buy it to that but just a stand alone fight at Heavyweight without belts.. not so sure.

I personally don't believe Hearn or Bellew really want the fight, not because Bellew is frightened or anything like that, just because they have repeatedly said they want "big money fights" or fights that have meaning like Stevenson or Ward..... or maybe a fight for all the CW belts.

If Usyk Bellew happens I can't see a Bellew doing much, he has proved people wrong many times before and only a fool would completely dismiss him, but from what I saw from Usyk throughout this WBSS I don't think many fighters have the ability to get close to him.

And I include Wilder and AJ in that. I don't think many will want to fight Usyk, high risk low reward and he is just ridiculously talented.

 

I agree 100%

I really don't think he gets a shot at AJ or Wilder without forcing himself in to a mandatory position.

They won't want that aggravation, it's a very hard nights work, a very tricky nights work against a very quick, very mobile and extremely talented fighter.

 

It's a tough one. I have no doubt that it would see out the O2 - there are enough legit fans of boxing who would pay to see Usyk do his thing on UK turf.

Can it do even 200k PPVs?? I don't know I guess Hearn is the expert. I think if it's sold to the casual market just how tough a fight it is for Bellew it could work. At December time, when people are splashing out for Xmas.... Could throw another spanner in the works.

If they had an immense co-feature it could do buys. Maybe follow the Brook-Gavin PPV model where you had a genuinely stacked night of boxing with three "main event" tier fights on the card.

 

Gassievs struggle was he didn't understand southpaw movement and counter. He was throwing the wrong shots all night as Usyk was moving. In fact he was tbrowi g the exact opposite shot, to what he should of been throwing against a southpaw mover.
Gas is a fighter, this is a good example of the boxer beating the bruiser.

 

Bellew v usyk would be a big money fight. Hearns selling average fighters at ppv very well. There's no way bellew who's at an all time high verses the first ever unified cruiserweight champion would do anything but make money...after sky put the promotion into hyperdrive. I reckon it would sell better than a ward fight.

Bellew really has no excuse. The only thing I can see is the weight...can he still get down to cruiserweight...you,d like to think so. I think bellew will fancy that fight anyway. Usyk not exactly a devastating puncher.

Think bellew beating the corpse of David Haye is clouding the judgment of a few. Joshua and wilder would not run from a fight against usyk. Both will beat him comfortably. Usyk gassing a bit the other night in a relatively slow paced fight. Stick an opponent 30 or 40 lbs heavier in with him. His gas tank will go. Their height/reach advantage will nuetralise a lot of his assets as well.

 

The right pivot to left uppercut that Usyk used was absolutely sexual

 

All i know is bellew will put up more of a fight than gassiev did. More than likely he will lose on points but at least it will be competitive and he has a chance, he might not be a banger but he can bang a bit and at least he has some solid boxing/footwork fundamentals.

Decent fight and an ideal one for both men, introduces usyk to the world of hw and for bellew a last hurrah with a punchers chance of retiring as unified cruiserweight champ. Nothing to lose for bellew here, its not like usyk is a dangerus puncher who could put him in hospital like haye could (or should have been able to)

Oddly i give bellew a better chance beating usky than gassiev.

Bellew would stand and trade with gassiev and get banged out, he wont be able to stand and trade with usyk so will have to box a bit, which he can do.

 

This thread reminds me of Mayweather - McGregor.

I will believe it when I see it. I won't state whether I respect Bellew until even after the fight happens......which as you can tell I'm very sceptical about happening anyway.

 

Bellew wouldn't fight as dumb a fight as gassiev fought, absolutely clueless.

 

Round 1: 44
Round 2: 50
Round 3: 76
Round 4: 70
Round 5: 61
Round 6: 75
Round 7: 85
Round 8: 85
Round 9: 84
Round 10: 91
Round 11: 101
Round 12: 117

Usyk gasses in a slow paced fight?...mate, look at the number of shots he threw each round. It actually goes up in the championship rounds. The lad didn’t gas at all. Apart from landing a clean big heavy shot, I’m not sure how a Wilder or AJ would deal with his footwork, his angles, his jab, feints. He happily fights on the backfoot.

 

Gassiev hits a lot harder than Bellend.

He landed his right hook flush once and it had no affect. He also landed some big left hooks to the body and nothing.

 

Very impressive stats tbh mate. I,ll concede the point because its clearly wrong. I still think there was signs it would be a problem against the bigger guys. A lot of arm punches in them numbers. Plus he had it pretty much his own way against gassiev largely down to his tremendous skill. He was breathing quite early...didn't effect his output tbf. But stick him in with a guy with four or five inches on him...five inch reach advantage and as it stands forty pounds above him in weight. Its a different ballgame. He's a great fighter no doubt. He,ll get beat against Joshua and wilder tho. Too big for him. He,ll bulk up...it usually always comes with drawbacks tho. He,ll gas more. Will be slower. Even with ten fifteen pounds on him.

 

I'm intrigued, lads.

Beyond 'giving it a go' which is ultimately pretty meaningless, how is Bellew going to cope with Usyk's movement? We've seen before he's a sucker for the straight left from the southpaw stance, how's he going to deal with that coming at him so rapidly? And if Usyk dips low to his right whilst covering his body, what is Bellew going to do to counter that? His feet aren't anywhere near as fast, so he isn't going to win the footrace. He won't be able to box at range against Usyk and if he goes for the kill he'll be picked apart and massacred. How will he cope with the output? The constant feinting and occasional straight to the body that completely dazzled Gassiev? He can't take him out with one shot and I'm not sure he has Gassiev's excellent timing (see Dorticus and Shimmell) either. So, what's the plan?

This isn't intended to be pugnacious by the way, I just do not see how he gets anything other than an absolute hiding against Usyk. And that's fine, he's a remarkable boxer. He's already beaten better fighters than Bellew so it's no knock on him

 

Usyk threw about 500 jabs, he won't be able to do that against the big guys at heavy. He will have to approach the fight in a different way.

He has the speed and footwork, even slightly heavier to get inside, land and get out. He will look like lighting compared to these huge Heavy lumps.

Where the problem will come, aside from but heavy shots, is if these heavies grab and lean on him as he comes on. After 10 rounds of that he will be very drained as would anybody