imagine if someone went through that kind of testing the day before a megafight?

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  1. jessy

    jessy Active Member Full Member

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    nahh. if you didnt submit your previous 40 opponents to this kind of testing and you only demanded it for pac, then you are damn scared. i bet flocaine is slapping himself right now for the dip**** he brought himself into. too bad he got cornered by his new found calling.... cleaning up the sport. no turning back for him now. LOL
     
  2. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

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    Sounds to me like someone is having second thoughts about their man winning. When Money brutalizes Shame in the ring, then what will your BS excuses be?
     
  3. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well we're not all Floyd and Shane are we??!! Just because it doesn't bother them two, doesn't mean it won't bother others! Shane even said it himself:

    "I can see how it would bother other fighters" (or something along them lines)

    This sport is not like any other. They're not sprinting to the other side of the track for 15 seconds, throwing a bouncy ball through a hoop, or running and kicking a ball for 90 minutes. No. For a maximum of 36 minutes, these guys exchanging blows to the body and head in the intent of hurting and knocking each other out. Mentally you need attain every advantage possible, especially in a bout that will be the biggest in history, and one that will ultimately define both careers!

    For this reason, you can see exactly why Floyd would demand these tests, and try to win the first round of the psychological battle. It's no secret that Pac hates drawing blood so close a fight (Morales fight), as HE feels it weakens him. It doesn't matter what we or Floyd feel. It's what HE feels. And if he feels by carrying out this non-compulsory procedure it will put him at a disadvantage for the biggest bout in the history of boxing, then he can not be faulted for not agreeing to it.

    Edit: And another thing, don't give this bull**** about Floyd trying to "clean up the sport of boxing". It's bull****. He don't give two shits about wanting clean boxing. We'll see how intently he pursues this cause after fighting Pac and retiring. We'll see if as a retired boxer and soon to be full time promoter, he'll request all the opponents of the fighters in his stable, to carry out random olympic style drug testing for every single one of their fights.
     
  4. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If they had something to hide then yeah it would effect you!!!
     
  5. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    "Hey, I predicted that!"

    Don't strawman me here Jac.

    You know I want Shane to brutalize floyd, but obviously pick floyd to win a UD.
     
  6. jessy

    jessy Active Member Full Member

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    very well said :good:happy
     
  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    It could possibly **** with someone. What about 14 days though? Do you think that could **** with someone?
     
  8. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since Pacquiao weighs in currently at around 145-147 and Mayweather is now coming in at 147...Wouldnt you think Mayweather would benefit less from this testing? If it does any harm, wouldnt Mayweather get the worse of it since he does have to dehydrate more than Pacquiao? Just a thought
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    not on fight night but in training yes. If those are peak sparring days, then I think its important. Not that it should have been enough to thwart the fight.

    the thing is, its important that both guys go in there 100%. The less controversy on the outcome, the better.

    also, its not clear that both fighters are tested at the same time and the same number of times. That seems to be random too. Imagine one fighter gets tested once or twice and the other one 10-12 times? Mosley said he's been tested 5 times already. Those kind of things need to be thought out. Just saying "olympic style testing" is not good enough.
     
  10. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What if the other fighter is 120%?
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    It didn't seem to **** with Pacquiao's training against Hatton and Clottey. It doesn't seem to **** with Mosley or Mayweather's training either. It seems to me that the most difficult part of the process is having these guys track your every move. The actual taking of the blood doesn't seem like a big deal. They wait til after your workout. So you have a full night to recover. You weakened a lot more by the actual training than you are from having 6mL of blood being taken.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    well obviously, the testing needs to be improved. Olympic style testing is not the answer cause it could have a negative impact on the fighter's performance. Why replace one wrong with another?

    I think the 24-day compromise was an honest effort to get the fight made
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Part of the agreement was that both guys are tested at the same time. There is no advantage either way in that regards.
     
  14. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Any? last time i checked it was only the schedule of the blood testing he was negotiating. Urine test, blood test he was agreeable. His been checked regularly by the commission too, and never heard of him complaining about anything the commission asked him to do including all the test.
     
  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    If true then that's already a step in the right direction. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think its the case with standard olympic style drug testing. There needs to be these kind of adjustments to the procedure so that the testing fits the demands of the sport.