IMO Deontay Wilder is still rank 3.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vegan Beast, Sep 4, 2020.


What Rank does Wilder deserve?

Poll closed Oct 24, 2020.
  1. 2nd

    3.0%
  2. 3rd

    51.5%
  3. 4th

    18.2%
  4. 5th

    12.1%
  5. 6th

    3.0%
  6. 7th

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 8th

    3.0%
  8. 9th

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. 10th

    3.0%
  10. Below top 10?

    6.1%
  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I'd like to see Wilder vs other top 10 ranked heavyweights also.
     
  2. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's very strange that Joshua somehow gets credit because Fury beat Wilder. I say that because it is perceived as if Wilder was exposed, proving AJ always had better skills and therefore must be no.2.
    Yet, although the British boxing establishment and fandom have done their best propaganda job in recent times, to make everybody forget ... it is on record and will never be lived down ...
    AJ WAS STOPPED BY RUIZ.
    Then he ran away in the rematch despite being the far larger fighter and puncher.

    So if anyone was ''exposed'', it was AJ, not Wilder.
    Wilder stopped by the guy who beat Klitschko, there's actually no shame in it.
    AJ stopped by fat small HW with no impressive wins = SHAME.

    Joshua's two wins over 40 year olds outrank Wilder's two wins over a 40 year old Ortiz and compensate somewhat for the Ruiz shame. The Parker win of AJ is easily matched by Wilder's Stiverne win for the belt. Let's not pretend Parker has gone on to do anything special since a narrow victory over Ruiz. Then they have similar or even shared opponents.

    Conclusion, AJ should not be considered better than Wilder until he proves he can beat Wilder or Fury. He should be considered either around the same level or lower at this point.
     
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I always think ratings should be based on results rather than potential even though I don't think potential should be dismissed by any stretch.
    With that

    1 Fury
    2 Joshua

    No question in my mind with the first two.
    After that, I think there is plenty of debate with 3 - 10 but here goes in a rather debatable 3 - 10

    3 Povetkin
    4 Pulev
    5 Whyte
    6 Parker
    7 Ruiz
    8 Wilder

    After this I think it can be far more arguable but...

    9 Hunter
    10 Chisora

    Open for debate. Could argue a place for Ortiz, Rivas, in the top 2, possibly Martin?


    With all said. I think Wilder is a good hw and would likely beat some who I have rated higher
     
  4. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I very much doubt AJ would try to avoid Wilders RH for the full distance, more like set up traps and counter. Wilder has a single punch offense in the main whereas AJ's offense is just far more varied, from the 1-2 to 4 and 5 punch combo's.

    I genuinely believe that Wilder would be every bit as wary of AJ's offense.
     
  5. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I’d still rank him 4th behind povetkin, can’t see him beating Joshua or Fury, if you rank him higher than povetkin I wouldn’t argue with you
     
  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    i'd have it :
    1 Fury
    2 Joshua
    3 Wilder
    4 Ruiz Jr.

    Ruiz Jr. will drop out of the top 4 if he doesn't get a fight in the next 6 months, but since he has a brual TKO win over the #2 within the last 18 months, I don't see why he shouldn't round out the top 4.