Impact of Ward-Kessler on Calzaghe's legacy

Straw.

 

Jack Straw? Nah, he's the Secretary of State for Justice I believe, he'd only ever be crowned if a 'King Ralph' situation happened.

Interesting though, good point.

 

This thread is full of fail.

 

I'm not a Calzaghe fanboy, but theres no need for these threads. I've heard a phrase knocking about on these forums (and a few others) and I think it goes something like "Styles make fights?"

What I think this objectively demonstrates, is that we cannot entirely correlate the previous victory's/losses to future bouts or wins/losses. Heres a very quick example:

Taylor beat Hopkins Twice
Pavlik beat Taylor Twice
Hopkins thrashed Pavlik

I apologize to those who may interpret this post as patronizing, but certain posters need to be reminded of the term "objectivity." Lets not start "america this, UK that," but instead congratulate Ward on a massive victory and look forward to the next round of bouts in the super 6.

 

Thank you very much nice respectful post. And as you mentioned in your example:

pavlik > taylor > hopkins > pavlik

it's not as simple as it seems so if we look at taylor's last few and next fight do we therefore say:

froch > hopkins < abraham

most definitley not

a loss to a fighter does not necessarily tarnish your resume or skills set nor does the defeat of someone you beat previously

also about kessler, he was and still is respected by his peers in the smw division so this is also how we can judge his calibre

 

By that logic, Carl Thompson popped the Cazlaghe bubble well before Ward. Calzaghe beat Eubank clearly in a war but Thompson stopped Eubank and beat him twice.

 

All these people who talk about Kess was a hype job, not a world level fighter etc are really starting to annoy me, this is a problem with many boxing fans today. Just because a fighter loses does not mean he is a hype job etc, he just lost a fight. Kessler held 2 of the belts at SMW and then lost these to Calzaghe, after this he went on to win one of these belts back, and a few yrs later lost it in only his 2nd pro defeat. He is obviously an elite/world level fighter at SMW, fighters lose people, its part of the sport we all love on here, very very few retire without a loss. When Calzaghe fought Kessler it was the hardest fight out there for him, Kessler held 2 of the belts. Just because he lost again a few yrs later does nothing bad for Calzaghe's resume. Fighters lose.

 

I suppose Danny Williams ruined Lewis's legacy through Tyson.

McBride did the same.

All three have now ruined Holyfield's legacy.

:smoke

 

:good

 

Some of you with the logic that because Ward destroyed Kessler makes Calzaghe ****, are the same ones that think Mayweather will beat Pacman even though Pacman destroyed 2 of Mayweathers previous opponents.

 

Calzaghe, like us in America, ****ing hates the english liemys, that's why I gave him props over here.