Impressive Heavyweight Title Reign?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Some of the heavyweights that held a title and made at least 8successful defences.
    Which were the most impressive iyo
    Quality of the opposition and how they beat em?
    Deontay WIlder 10 defences
    Ezzard Charles 8 Defences
    Lennox Lewis 9
    Defences
    Mike Tyson9 Defences
    Joe Frazier 9 Defences
    Wladimir Klitscko 18 defences

    Thoughts..

     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    These were often defences of straps, not thee title. Wilder never beat the best fighter in the world or the best fighter in the world excepting himself. Wilder won his title by beating Bermane Stiverne, a good fighter, who was unwell. Stiverne had taken a vacant strap against an unranked (surely) Chris Arreola who hadn't beaten a ranked opponent in five, six years, and had lost to two on the spin while padding his record against other nowhere guys. The whole thing is a racket and a joke. Wilder then beat Stiverne in a mandated rematch before studiously avoiding ranked opposition. He really did come good in the end though for fighting real opposition - and lost all the meaningful fights he had except for a gift draw.

    Lewis had fewer defences :lol: and beat not just some of the best in the world but also beat the man who would follow him as best in the world. There are levels to this ****. A belt does not a champion make. They're just baubles and bangles. If you have huge promotional power and are patient you can hang a belt off fighters who are only good.
     
  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fergy, In Muhammad Ali's first title reign from Feb 25 1964 until he was stripped of his boxing license and title on April 28 1967, Ali had 9 title defenses, his last title defense was against Zora Folley on March 22 1967 in Madison Square Garden, Ali stopped Folley by TKO 7.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yep I know mate, definitely not lineal for Wilder for example..
    Klitschko s title defences weren't all I don't believe, for the lineal ones.
    Even Joe Frazier s perhaps, until he beat Ali, or maybe unified with Ellis.
    It's just a question of which title reign had the hardest challengers and how good they looked beating em.
    Maybe the wilder one made it a bit stinky :(
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Lewis stands out.Tyson's reign was pretty decent too,imo
     
  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He did indeed Richard. I was gonna include Ali, Louis, and a few others but thought maybe a little too long a list.
     
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  7. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No problem, I thought worth a mention Fergy.
     
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  8. Fergy

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    They both looked pretty dominant as well most of the time mate.
    Tyson koing Berbick, Tubbs, Thomas, Spinks.
    Lewis smashing Golota, Grant and Botha looked impressive for me.
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Always worth a mention, Richard :thumbsup:
     
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  10. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Wlad’s stand out. Often underrated in retrospect. Many peak opponents coming off career best wins, in their physical primes. And wide array of styles. It’s a shame Wlad’s style was torturously boring and he lacked the charisma outside the ring to draw in fans. A bland champion that will probably never receive the recognition he deserves for a truly dominant run. From his second victory over Chris Byrd to finally losing to Fury is a span of just over 9 years. Now when he beat Byrd he only won the IBF title, he took the WBO from Ibragimov a few defenses later and then a few defenses after that the WBA from Haye and along the way the Ring title from Chagaev. Great run.
     
  11. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone on that list has had great runs with the exception of Wilder. Is that by design? To expose how rotten he was? he seems to be the outlier the anomaly.
     
  12. USFBulls727

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    Wilder's reign clearly wasn't the most impressive because of the overall competition, but with the exception of Fury, he did manage to KO all title challengers. The win over Ortiz was considered VERY solid by many at the time. Definitely not the strongest resume aside from that though.

    I'd say he was a good addition to the thread if for no other reason than to point out the difference between a strap holder, and THE champion as @McGrain did in the above post.
     
  13. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder was never a champion, these alphabet titles r a joke. One good win over Ortiz that’s it
     
  14. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Absolutely. If ever I start to recognise Wilder as A TRUE champ, then I'm booking in to the funny farm..
     
  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They're Coming To Take You Away. Ha Ha.
     
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