Improving Handspeed: Modern and Old School Training

Trying to think of some now scrap... don;'t doubt you for one minute... De La Hoya?

 

Cotto Tyson both have above average handspeed.

 

There Heads were in not Down.

 

A little thing you can Try, drop your Chin on your Chest, then try lifting your Shoulders. Now put your Chin in not down, now try lifting the Shoulders, its a diffent response.

 

True i did that. It isn't natural for your head to be pointing down while you're moving about. Probably why coaches are always yelling 'keep yer fookin chin doon camron'

 

To fix that, the chin goes down a little, and the shoulder goes up a little.

 

RDJyoure missing the point, When the Chin drops the support Muscles for Punching, already have a response. You have to change the response, nothing flows. Muscle cant do two things at the same time at speed.

 

Am I? I'm suggesting tucking the chin by pulling up the shoulder a little, would that not fix part of the problem? I agree that putting the chin completely on the chest destroys part of your motor skills.

 

Something is being overlooked here. Whilst I concur that handspeed is very important, so is a sound defence. Look at Hopkins - he's got no real handspeed to speak of, and yes he does keep his chin tucked down at times - this goes some way to supporting scrap's theory, and I bow to his superior knowledge in this area. My point is if your boxing success was reliant on speed alone, B-Hop wouldn't have got anywhere the level that he is at now. Boxing is about balance... not physical balance (though very important), but a balanced skill set, which works in tandem with your physical attributes. Finding the correct balance is extremely difficult, with only a handful of fighters in history being able to strike that perfect blend. So, my advice is don't disregard the fundamentals and your natural abilities in exchange for maximizing your effectiveness in only one area - take a blanced view and work with what you have got.

 

So what do you propose from this scrap? Not tuck your chin when blazing combos?

Or is this just a random finding that we can draw our own conclusion upon?

 

:good

 

Indeed. It's a trade off between protecting the chin and being fast. I don't tuck it that much myself, just enough to make it touch my left shoulder when under attack. It's not supposed to touch the chest IMO, you'd be way too square on for my taste anyway.

 

This could go on a bit . Chin down puts pressure on the upper Back which in turn puts pressure on the lower back Psossas and Groin, stops natural movement. affects the inner ear alinement with Feet. Chin down restricts diaphragm working as it should by 50%, eyes primary source is oxygen. got a client back later :hi:

 

Which doesnt do peripharel vision much good, also with less oxygen intake the body will not perform at its best. Theres a few little Bits. :good

 

Awesome. I've saved that. A lot of people I know will be interested in reading that. INfact even mentioning it could land me in short bit of trouble

Scrap p4p #1 trainer.

Bodi has a good post too, balance in all areas is important.