In 1994 Ken Buchanan went to New York to look for Roberto Duran

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    "I had watched him continue his career as mine slipped away. Whatever he achieved I still felt he didn't deserve to be world champion, rolling in dough and glory. I keep seeing the big picture in my head of June 1972 and Duran is jumping about the ring with my title. I go white-hot with anger...nothing can cool me down.

    All I ever wanted was a return fight but Duran stayed well ouut of my road. Every time I was in position to ask for a title fight there was some excuse...so here I am working as a joiner more than 20 years later and I can't take it. Any time I have tried to talk to another person about this, they just tell me, "Ken, it's just one of those things".

    But it's not just one of those things. For the rest of the world it might be just one of those things, but for me it is the thing. And by now I am old enough and ugly enough to know that it has to be dealt with. If I had a pound for every time somebody asked me if I would have beat Duran [in a rematch] i'd be a millionare. And every time I got asked that question my heart broke just a little bit further.

    I flew from Edinburgh to London...I got a flight to Kennedy Airport...to be honest it felt like it was just the day before I was fighting Duran. When we landed in America my heart was pounding. I was looking out the taxi thinking, what was I doing? One man in a city of ten million trying to find another single human being amongst the those ten million.

    We arrived in Harlem where the bed and breakfast was. I got out of the cab and caught a few people loooking at me. But that didn't bother me. Nothing much frightens me at all now...the door opens and this woman pokes her head otu. She's about five feet nothing in her socks.

    "Yes?"

    "I phoned from the terminal. You said you had me a room for a couple of weeks."

    "But man - you is white!"

    "Jesus - you're the second person today to tell me that!"

    "You're white!"

    "Yes brilliant, Christ, I know that."

    I smile, she smiles, and she lets me in. She takes me to Mrs. Wells restraunt up the street. Up the stairs we go and people are looking. She opens the door and we go in. The place falls silent. Not a fork or a knife scraping a plate. Mouths are hanging open. There is a white man in the doorway...but I didn't give a **** - to be honest there are times in your life when nothing matters, and I think people pick up on that.

    After about ten days looking for Duran in all the gyms and bars, I decided I was never going to find him...So after two weeks in Harlem I went back to Scotland..."

    Ken Buchanan, from his autobiography.
     
  2. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that's ****ing incredible thanks man! ... was he gonna pick a fight with duran?
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I reckon that's exactly what he was doing!
     
  4. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Wow, well i need to read that one then
     
  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Its a good book.
    So is the first one he wrote.Alot of people think because Ken had such a technical style that he wasnt a badass but believe me he was a badass .
     
  7. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks MCGrain, very interesting stuff.
    I didn't know the loss (or rather, the way it happened) burned him so much.
     
  8. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would got a ass kicking if he found him
     
  9. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep. I think Kenny was a white-haired old man in '94. Duran was still beating hell out of guys half his age in Mississippi casino's on ESPN... I think he would've whipped Buchanan and Sean O'Grady simultaneously if it got down to it.
     
  10. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That looks like an interesting read. Thanks for posting...Have you read the book, Mc?
     
  11. JIm Broughton

    JIm Broughton Active Member Full Member

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    I can't say I blame Ken for the way he feels. I always thought that Duran hit him low on purpose because he was frustrated that the Scotsman was hanging tough and not folding like alot of people thought he would. I also think that's it's no shock that Duran wouldn't fight him again. I think Duran wanted no part of Ken anymore after thier first fight. Not that he was afraid of Ken but Ken might make him look a little less than indestructible even if Roberto won..Not good for the image you know.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    The hell is a joiner?
     
  13. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ken Buchanan is a character and an all-time great in my opinion. Roberto Duran, however, was certainly not afraid of him. His management had a different trajectory for the 21 year old Duran's career, and Ken didn't fit it.

    Ken was not in much danger of winning that fight irregardless of the shot to the jewels. The two judges at ringside had the bout 9-2-1 and 9-3-1. Ref LoBianco had it 8-3-1 -all for Duran.

    And we all know that Buchanan wasn't gonna stop Duran late.
     
  14. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think an easily overlooked factor here is that Buchanan's life wasn't going very well -- when life sucks, it is natural to not blame yourself and look for excuses -- a happening, a person -- to shift the blame on.
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    A Carpenter (more or less).