In 5 years time who do you think are gonna be the main players in the Heavyweight division?

It means that the Americans are garbage.

 

nah

its just means they like to eat a lot

ha

 

So you're saying that the EEs are good. Ok which ones?

 

I dont say that the eastern europeans are good , i was only talking about the americans and being objective,
they are horrible.
Americans have great fighters in the lower weight divisions but in the HW Division , they are...

 

Joshua, Parker, Usyk and maybe some top amateurs who have turned over...

 

I feel AJ will be a major force. Win or lose against Wlad, I feel he's mentally strong enough to come back from a loss. Just my gut feeling.

 

There aren't any. None go as deep as I go into the heavyweight division and there are none. The top guys now are going to be the top guys 5 years from now if they aren't too old. Whoever becomes undisputed in the next year can probably rule for a long time. Eliminating unproven prospects, I couldn't even come up with 50 contenders. There's less than 20 prospects with any hope of being top 30 in their careers. Not much more than a dozen tough(ish) journeyman types on top of that. That's why I do the research so people won't get fooled.

 

Tell us more, Blackclouds. How did you arrive at this exactly?

 

I keep a one note that tracks all of the top contenders, prospects and any journeyman that can either expose prospects or are tough. It's about time some of these boxing hipsters get put in their place thinking they can hype some bum cause nobody is looking. They can't anymore.

 

If Butterbean or Dustin the worm could get inspired they could take it from Windmiller Wilder and play the same game he does. Maybe manage to be on top.

 

Geeze... time flies.

Lot of serious change in the lifes and careers of almost every single fighter on that list.

 

There is no way Wildmills get in the ring with the worm again. He learn't his lesson.

 

SO much can change, but I'm going to go with these guys being in the thick of it - not necessarily title holders or undefeated, but they may be the same or bigger names than they are now.

1) Anthony Joshua - may or may not show some sign of being human between now and then, but he'll be in his early 30s by then and will be as dangerous as anything.

2) Joseph Parker - still refining his form and building his name, getting some good fights (win or lose) with more top guys will do nothing to hurt his image on the world stage. He's only mid 20s, and he's already proven to mix at the top so with a few bigger names involved with his resume and the fact he won't even be at peak until nearer this 5 years being up I'd say it's fair to assume he'll be in the mix.


3) Hughie Fury - Win or lose against Parker he is young and still growing in experience and size. It would be foolish to have a list like him and not have Hughie expected to be in the thick of it in his mid/late 20s.

4) Jarrell Miller - To be fair, I've not quite decided whether him or Dillian Whyte should fill this spot. There is a place here for the vacuum Dereck Chisora will create when he's well past it in 5 years, I like Miller more than I like Whyte.. has a good mouth on him, but more respect, still pretty young and undefeated and possibly a bit better. He's probably yet to peak in popularity and impression, one way or another I can see him causing plenty of reason for him to be in discussion in 5 years time IF he starts getting some bigger fights over the next year or so.
5) Oleksander Usyk - I *want* to see him in heavyweight and see if it really translates up. If it does then it's fair to say in 5 years he's going to be a bit of a boogyman, even if he's not necessarily big enough to cope with the likes of AJ.

 

tell us who you have your eyes on.

 

Tell us your prospect rankings he meant.

Tell us your research??