In 55 fights has Manny Pacquiao ever asked anyone to pay 10 million per Lb over?

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  1. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Drain em one way or the other. Weight, money, Pac just wants em drained.
     
  2. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    :patsch:patsch:patsch

    How dumb can you be???:-(
     
  3. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What proof does Void have that Pacquiao is using roids?
     
  4. Dojo

    Dojo The Animal Full Member

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    Because Floyd has come in over the weight limit one more time than Manny has tested positive for PEDs.
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Exactly and it's also an indirect sign that he WILL go on with the fight to not upset the public even if Mayweather screws him but wants to make sure he's being paid REALLY good for it. Fair in my opinion.
     
  6. AMERICANBORN

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    Yup, and if cotto was over 147 the fight would be off. None of this really matters since no one on the planet expected Floyd to come in at over 147, which is why he agreed so easily
     
  7. SexualPanda

    SexualPanda Active Member Full Member

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    Your an idiot.

    Your missing the point entirely. The AGREED weight for the Marquez fight was at 144lbs. Mayweather decided to be totally unprofessional and pull a ***** move to turn the fight into his favour and give him the advantage by changing the contract and putting a penalty clause for every pound over the weight limit a week before the fight. This is PROOF the guy did not weigh at the initial AGREED limit of 144. It doesn't matter that he didn't come in at over 147lbs, the point is he broke the initial contract. Totally understandable demand considering the ***** move by Mayweather in his PREVIOUS fight. It doesn't matter if the penalty was 100 MILLION. The point of the demand was simply to STOP Mayweather pulling the same ***** move against Pacquiao.

    The difference is Pac has NEVER tested positive for roids, and May is only asking for this unheard of blood testing purely because of a "hunch" from his crackhead idiotic father. The guy has about as much credibility as Tiger Woods as a marriage counselor preaching monogamy.
     
  8. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Obviously you are ignorant about weight limits.

    Welterweight limit is 147 not 154, and no justification can ever exist in this universe if you ask a lightweight to go up two divisions at 1 catchweight of 144 and then come up at weigh-in AT 146, unless you are Nallege, dannyrand, and any who has fraudster as their avatar.

    BTW, if that is not a proof, I do not know from what planet you come from.
     
  9. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    The contract was not changed a week before the fight but on the night prior to the weigh-in.

    The ***** move was not accidental but rather by design. The usual protocol once the contract was signed is to give the copy of the signed contract to the NSAC, but in the case of this fight, the contract was never given to NSAC but instead they gave the modified contract after the weigh-in.

    According to Divac, 1 + 1= 2, well, in this case, 1 + 1 = 3 (possible if you talk of synergy), unless you are blind. It is obvious to see why the contract was not immeditely given to NSAC because they were planning to modify it all along, in cohoots with the GBP.
     
  10. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Cotto is a big welter, who comes in at 158-160 at fight time.

    It is easy for a keyboard fighter like you to type but Pac is the one fighting on top of the ring.

    I guess you are one of the groupies who could justify that Mayweather could come in two pounds above 144 as long as he pays 300,000 dollars per pound.

    If cotto is professional, then he has to come in at the agreed upon weight (which he did without fuss). Cotto never raised any issue with it, but I guess you are Cotto's accountant? Did Mayweather came in at the agreed upon weight?
     
  11. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The difference is that Mayweather agreed to Pacquiao's terms. 10 million is a ridiculous amount. You can argue that Pacquiao had reason to ask for such a high fine. However you can only assume that Mayweather never planed on meeting the 144 limit. This might be the case. However it is also possible that his body just won't go down that low anymore. Either way he agreed. What ever the reason he weighed 146 insted of 144 against Marquez I find it highly unlikely that he is willing to pay 10 million dollars for an edge. That would be 1/4 of his projected purse. A much smaller fine equal to those that were part of the De La Hoya and Cotto contracts would be muvh more ratitional. Myweather did not make excuses he agreed to these terms. I really don't think pacquiao expected him to agree to these terms.

    You can call me anyname you like. It dose not change facts. Pacquiao made every excuse not to agree to random blood testing. When Mayweather made major compermises in his position willing to go more than half way to meet Pacquiao's position. It was not enough for Pacquiao.
    Pacquiao is fighting Clottey on march 13th because he wants to fight Clottey and Not Mayweather.
     
  12. SexualPanda

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    I am not here to call you names. I just find it beyond belief some people can just totally be oblivious to simple logic and reasoning. Like I said before, the million dollar penalty amount is totally irrelevant. It doesn't matter what it is, whether 10 million, 20 million, 100 million. The point of the clause was to make it LARGE ENOUGH to prevent Mayweather from gaining any major advantage by coming in at higher than the WW limit. Mayweather obviously agreed to it because he is obviously confident of making the 147 limit - a weight he has NEVER had trouble making. The fact that he agreed to the demand isn't any major concession by him, considering he KNOWS he will make the weight, and he KNOWS he is in no danger of paying the $10 million, since there is an incentive for him to do so. A $300,000 per pound clause was obviously not enough of an incentive in his previous fight, an amount Marquez clearly underestimated which resulted in an uneven playing field.

    If you seriously think this is the case, then it just shows you are clearly a deluded one-eyed fan that cannot be objective even if the facts clearly show otherwise. Say the guy is on the juice or say he is overrated like every other MW groupie. But to say the guy is avoiding or ducking MW is completely ridiculous and you know it. One thing that cannot be denied, is that the guy has BALLS. Something MW has been trying to locate since moving up from 135. From no fault of his own, the guy is fighting Clottey, the most dangerous WW available for him to fight right now, and a guy MW wouldn't fight if held at gun point. Let's just see who MW selects as his opponent, and we can then try and work out who the "real" coward is.
     
  13. hmi

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    At least Floyd wasn't drained on his fight with JMM. Smart move by Floyd, do you agree?
     
  14. Jambon

    Jambon Active Member Full Member

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    OMG, your are stubburn and on a mission arent you. You make my mind ach
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Ripcity makes an excellent point which of course is being largely ignored. The fact of the matter is, Floyd has weighed in over 147 lbs. one time and that was when he weighed in at 150 lbs. for a 154 lb. fight. There is no logical reason to believe that he would weigh in over 147 lbs. when he weighed in at 146 lbs. for his last fight. Yes, that was 2 lbs. over the agreed upos 144 lb. limit, but he hasn't been that light in several years and he hadn't fought in almost two years.

    There was a much greater chance of Oscar not making 147 lbs. against Pac considering he hadn't done it in several years and considering there was no title on the line. Despit this, and despite the fact that Oscar has more money than Floyd, a penalty of $1 mill per lb. was insittuted. In this fight, you have a fighter who already supposedly has money problems, made 146 lbs. just a few months earlier, and there would've been a title on the line. Quite simply put, a weight penalty was completely unneccesary all things considered. And even still, the $10 mill penalty was 10 times greater than any weight penalty ever insituted. You can't tell me a $1 or $2 mill penalty wouldn't have been enough.

    Team Pac basically proposed a completely ridiculous clause that they expected Team Mayweather to reject(this is what people are claiming Mayweather did with the blood testing.) Maybe it was because they didn't want the fight, or maybe they planned to use the rejection as a reason to reject the blood testing. This backfired as Mayweather agreed without issue. Now Team Pacquiao agreed to the blood testing only to come up with a ridiculous proposal of a 30 day window weeks later(incidently, this counterproposal only came about after Mayweather accepted their weight penalty). Not only that, but they rejected a fair comprimise of 14 days by Mayweather and also lied about Mayweather offering 14 days(keep in mind that Pac is on record as saying he didn't want to be tested within days of the fight and that Roach said they would accept a 7 day window).

    Both guys are at fault here, but Team Pacquiao is more at fault. Had they simply rejected the blood testing from the outset, they would be at no fault. It seems that Team Pac has done everything thing they could to make this fight fall apart. The fact that they accepted, then tried to change the terms of the blood testing, then rejected a counterproposal which they earlier claimed they would accept makes them look really bad. Not only that, but they keep putting out condradictary statements, they've flat out lied, and they have filed a lawsuit against Mayweather.