In a 12 round bout a boxer with stamina issues should?

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A boxer who has stamina issues who is fighting in a 12 round championship bout. Lets say that he is otherwise an A level boxer. What aproch should he take?
    1.Should he go for it from the outset? With the goal of stoping his oppoent before he runs out of gas, or getting enough points in the early rounds. Round 1 is scored the same way as round 12. Hoping to hold on and survive till the final bell and win a decision.

    2.Should he pace him self? Never realy giving a full effort in any round doing enough to win some rounds and taking a few rounds off so that he is fresh in rounds 11 & 12, and able to finish strong.
     
  2. darthhutchence

    darthhutchence Well-Known Member Full Member

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    end it early, and master the art of the clutch!
     
  3. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Out of those 2 options I'd go with the second one.
     
  4. darthhutchence

    darthhutchence Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and stay away from Zab Judah.
     
  5. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you have another opition?
     
  6. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would do a combination of the two.


    Try to beat the breaks off of the dude for the first two rounds, hoping to end it, hurt him, or put a little fear in him. If that doesn't work, then start saving energy for the long haul. And in the last two rounds, same strategy.
     
  7. duncanne

    duncanne New Member Full Member

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    Pace himself and only try and attract the judges in the last minute of each of the early rounds. Easy enough to say but the opponent always has an outcome on whether the "coasting" strategy can be used or not, does the fighter have enough venom in the punches to keep the opponent honest and not too forward pressing?, i.e. allowing the fighter to stick to the conservation strategy?

    In my opinion Wladimir K. is a prime example of of the type of fighter that conserves energy (learnt from history with Ross and Lamon). However the key to executing the strategy is not only what the fighter brings, it depends on the quality/attributes of the opposition. Wladimir's physical attributes (size advantage) coupled with his skills/athletisicsm/training/experience/excellence normally means that the inferior quality/attributes of his opposition is a foregone conclusion (ok it's boxing, and if/when he faces a big athletic/experienced puncher again he may be Sandered). His current fights seem to show that he is rather careful on expending energy even when his opponent (most of his fights in the last 3-4 years) have no KO record against top level fighters.

    So the answer is it depends on the attributes/advantages of the fighter, and these have to be judged/balanced against each potential opponent. So in my opinion there is no "standard" recipe/procedure. Every fight strategy has to take in to account the styles & attributes of both participants, i.e. wladimir should fight agressive against feather fisted small fighters that offer no threat (such as Chambers), but be more conservative and fight big against bangers (if he ever chooses to face one again...)
    Haye in my opinion is a huge underdog, because having seen a lot of his fights, I believe that he is not at all used to fighting bigger than himself (Valuev fight is not a valid comparator for how Wladimir/Vitali fight would unroll) and of course he is at a huge size/strength disadvantage.

    We all know the big good fighter beats the good smaller fighter... Well Kilts' are big and good (not ATG), they prove this point in a weak HW period.

    Sorry for the novel.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree.

    Clinch and lean on that mofo like a lamp post!
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    The third option is : SORT OUT THOSE STAMINA ISSUES.
    He should prepare and train himself physically and mentally to go the 12 rounds if necessary.
     
  10. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    This. :thumbsup
     
  11. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    #2 sounds effective until you actually try it...you have to be VERY experienced to pace yourself and manage rounds like Hopkins.
     
  12. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    In my opinion, not every person/boxer can do this. Certain people can not last 12 rounds, or in my peronal view 3-4 rounds (amateur). From what i've seen as an amateur, certain people can train as hard as they wan't for a bout, but they will always "shoot their load" before the end of the bout.
    I never had trouble with stamina issues for a bout, yet certain people who trained as hard (same curcuits, etc) as me struggled. Although stamina issues can be directed towards diet.
     
  13. Son of Gaul

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    Stamina is what often separates champion caliber fighters from the rest of the crowd. Going for the KO from the opening bell is great IF you have devastating power. If not, the only way is to manage rounds and pace yourself. The latter is VERY difficult and takes a ton of experience/patience.
     
  14. Son of Gaul

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    I agree but I still think that proper pacing will take care of everything. But as I said before, it's very difficult to win fights consistently without stamina by simply pacing oneself and managing rounds. James Toney is a decent example of this but it's pretty rare. You have to be really good technically and VERY patient to do it consistently.
     
  15. Son of Gaul

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    Big George was decent at it in his second career.