In all seriousness Pacquiao never took steroids.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Apr 7, 2015.


  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's just a bunch of BS to hate on the man.

    Did you know he had 10 title fights at 122? And he knocked out 9 guys. That was way back in the day well before steroid accusations.
    That just goes to show at a more natural weight he had a ton of power.

    It was natural. Believe it or not some guys just have the gift of hitting hard.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Refused random blood testing and walked away during first negotiation with Floyd.

    Actions speak louder than words.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would never take it either. Drawing blood from your body lowers your red blood cell count. It harms your stamina.

    So when Manny's camp says drawing blood affects him they are backed by science.
     
  4. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao said this in January about the first negotiations, "I never refused random blood testing. He won't admit, but he knows it. He was just using an alibi to avoid the fight."

    I don't who's right, but Pacquiao 100% believes what he said is the truth.
     
  5. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    look, everybody knows he took them...nobody cares, obviously. he'll get beat and exposed by floyd and they'll say he got old or whatever. but they won't take his titles or his money or his accolades.

    pac doesn't give a schit...so why the hell do you care?:happy
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You are accusing somebody of taking steroids with the phrase "look, everybody knows he took them..."
     
  7. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have never ever seen something so damn obvious in my entire life. Everything points to ped use. If i told a ramdom person who doesn't know boxing, the whole story, im sure everyone would tell me it happened. Pacquiao or no pacquiao, good guy or bad guy. It is what it is. Common sense. Marquez hasn't fail or reject a blood test and even my dog knows he did it for ko6 too
     
  8. miniq

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    If he ever did then it would have been under the tutelage of Ariza WHO Floyd is now using...

    lol..

    I'm fairly certain Marquez was on PEDS for his 4th Pac fight

    Pacquiao i'm unsure
    Floyd i'm unsure

    But if either Floyd OR Pac ever turn out to have used PEDS then both of them will have...and it wouldn't be the biggest surprise. EITHER WAY their boxing skills got them to where they are not PEDS...
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    So basically people are saying is once Pacquiao started taking steroids his power decreased.

    Because that's what happened. At 122 and 126 (before the accusations) he was carrying way more power.

    Go figure.
     
  10. Hilarious, especially given the fact that 2 fighters training under the Mayweathers out of the Mayweather Boxing Gym were both clipped for PED use.
     
  11. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is how the drug testing scenario happening, I believe.

    Mayweather for the next few years proclaims the fight fell apart because Pacquiao refused random drug testing, while Pacquiao declares he didn't refuse random blood testing but Mayweather used it as an excuse to walk away. That's the way I think it happened more or less.
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Last time I went to the doctors with a flu, I hate 4 vials of blood drawn. It's a common ass thing to get blood drawn. Nobody gets really sick or weak or dies from it.

    Floyd would have been taking the exact same random blood tests. Therefore there would be no advantage to either fighter and your opinion of getting weak would affect him equally.

    Your opinion is further moot because after 5 years, Pac has agreed to blood testing. He actually did in 2013 on his own request, having vehemently objected to any drug testing before then, after he was KTFO. So obviously his fear of being weakened or sickened from drawing blood is simply non existent as he cited the exact same things Mayweather had years before as to why more drug testing is important.

    This is post 1960's-sporting. You must be naive living in that cozy bubble of yours.
     
  13. pacman24

    pacman24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didn't refuse to be tested. He agreed to normal testing and Mayweather kept trying to change the drug test protocol. May can't read but he knows how people should be tested?:lol::rofl:lol:
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Funny. Freddie Roach and Bob Arum say otherwise.

    "Talk to my promoter, Bob Arum."

    That quote also directly contradicts what he said over and over in 2010-2012 when questioned about it. "Let the commission do their job," "I won't accept blood testing because he is bullying me," etc. etc.

    Literally from Pac's own mouth. No way you can possibly even remotely try to believe that.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're not an athlete. Blood testing lowers your red blood cell count. That's fact. So when Manny says it weakens his body that's not nonsensical. It's rooted in scientific fact.