In Andre Ward the new Joe Calzaghe?

Calzaghe only won a belt at one weight class.

Magazine titles don't count (especially at LHW where they were awarded to the wrong man initially). :good

And don't forget the WBO wasn't even viewed as a legitimate belt until the year 2000 or so.

 

Hopkins was lineal fool

 

Thats open for discussion and interpretation :deal

 

Double.

 

No, it was Zsolt Erdei at the time.

Hill -> Michalczewski -> Gonzales -> Erdei

Either way it's still not an actual title though.

 

hopkins was the man then and is still the man now.

 

How far past prime was Eubank to you then?
Eubank had lost a close decision to Collins, that many thought he won, had a couple of tune ups and rematched Collins to a SD, had a couple of tune ups and lost clearly to underdog Calzaghe. After that loss Eubank went up to CW and challenged world champ Thompson losing a very close decision and then rematched Thompson losing on injury when ahead. Thats Thompson who years later past his best KOd D Haye.
Consider Eubank only had 2 losses to one fighter when he fought Calzaghe, the second by SD to a world champ and was 31 then went on to challenge a big CW flooring him etc, how past his prime do YOU think he was?
Remember Kessler is Wards big win and was the same age as Eubank here and had around the same amount of fights, so is Kessler shot as well, because Kessler has a serious eye problems and was an unwell double vision suffering fighter who has been inactive for a while now due to his injury

Remember when you make silly comments about losses was G Johnson considered past his prime when years ago after losing to Hopkins he went 7-9-2 including the Hopkins loss

The WBO Belt
I just wanted to highlight some details to you.
The SMW divisions first world champs were WBC 1988, WBA 1987, IBF 1984 & WBO 1988.
Now for a start it is a new division so no belt has any more prestige than the other as they were all started at a similar time. So the WBO SMW title has no less prestige than the others.
Consider also that the WBO at SMW has been involved in 4 unification bouts.
The IBF has been involved in 2
The WBA in 3
WBC in 4 also
This shows that the WBO has been as willing to make top fights at SMW as much as any other governing body.

Now look at the list of champs in each and who they defended against and you can see that the WBO SMW title has produced the best defences overall better than all of the other govening bodies in this particular weight division so far.
Consider how much critism Bute gets now for his IBF defences.
Consider M Beyer defending his WBC title against 26-14-5 fighter who was coming off of a win against a 0-2-0 fighter
Or that Mundine when defending the WBA title against a 24-13-5 fighter who was the same fighter that WBC champ Beyer was defending against above.

People bring up Eubank who helped mould the belt that was good enough to give T Hearns a slice of history making. Out of Eubanks 18 WBO SMW title fights 14 of those fights were against fighters who were, had been or became top 10 SMWs. One was a unification and another was against the undefeated former IBF SMW champ (relinquished his title). In fact 6 of the fighters he faced had been or became world champs

Calzaghe also won the WBC WBA & IBF titles :smoke

Magazine titles dont count, so that means that you think Hopkins has been campaigning at LHW for around 5 years before ever becoming champ. I agree magazine titles dont say a great deal but beating the top man does, and thats what Calzaghe did

 

Thats more like it, but he was not the real lineal champ. But being "lineal" and being "the man" isnt always the same. Comeback Foreman(Beat Moorer yes, but then got a gift against Schulz) and Shannon Briggs(Getting a gift against Foreman) was lineal too, but calling either of them "the man" would be a joke.

 

calzaghe is the most naturally gifted boxer i have seen, been trained by his mental old man in a shed on a field somewhere. And still bashed everyone up, imagine he got some world class training, he would have been frightening!

 

How you compare natural skill/Talent with someone who actually slaps .... so Dont Thank me for anything , This thread was already filled with stupidity the moment you decided to make it .