What the **** does that have to do with anything at all you failed abortion? Name 5. Name 5 better heavyweights that were a possibility for him to fight. Name the "respectable" guys that would "show you something" name them, specific names, 5 of them.
Give it a rest. This is the fight game. The whole morality thing just doesnt work. Brock is an *******. His always been an *******. He was hated in OVW and the WWE. He got cut from the Vikings because he was always starting fights. He's a precocious talent and always knew this. Coupled with his brashness and WWE persona he will never change. I was almost expecting Paul Heyman to pop up from behind one of his shoulders as he ranted. Myself personally i thought it was great. A bit low for poor Mir as he struggled to regain his senses but **** it entertainment at its best. Bottom line is fans want to be entertained. Wether people want to admit it or not the whole WWE charade works. Once a Professional wrestler ALWAYS a professional wrestler.
If that was PRIDE a few years ago Brock wouldnt have got a look in. The UFC heavy division has always been weak historically. Good wins no question about that and a good resume for a rookie but hardly the stuff of legends. And for the record Herring stopped being durable a long time ago. Roughly around the time Fedor beat him from one side of the ring to the other repeatedly.
what a romanticized faulty memory; mark ****ing hunt got a shot a fedor, don't give me your distored memories. Brock would be in the exact same spot then as now, right behind fedor. Zulu and yoshida could have been for the next shot.
Yeah and guess what Fedor subbed him with a Kimura moments later. Stop talking semantic **** and deal with actual facts rather than supposition based in the usual Beebs what if scenario's. :roll:
I totally agree that someones ground game shouldn't be purely wrestling. You need the mix. It's not just the take down they should take. Brock is putting his wrestling to great use. At the moment we are seeing that he can stand up for a short time and strike for long enough until a shooting moment comes. Then he shoots for the takedown and the unleashing of pain begins.
Irony much? So you speculate that Brock wouldn't have gotten a look into the HW picture, I say Hunt actually did get that very shot, and I'm speculating? Fact is if Hunt got a shot, if Zulu got a shot, if Randleman got a shot, if Coleman got two shots you can't tell me Lesnar wouldn't deserve one. I never said Hunt, Zulu, Coleman, Coleman again, or Randleman almost won (although Randleman did almost win), I said they got the shot, a fact, it happened, in reality. Your supposition that Brock would never get that shot is speculation, imagination, guesswork, in your case denial and delusional fandom. So Hunt, Zulu, Coleman, Randleman, and Coleman again can get "in the mix" but a fighter better than all of them by far wouldn't? Pride would throw Fedor in their circus tent freak show with Brock first chance they got, and he would be a better opponent than any of those listed.
I ****ing HATE, Lesnar. I only watch his fights for him to get beat. The guy is a strong fighter. He gets the job done even if it's not pretty. It makes me hate him even more. I still truly believe that Couture can beat Lesnar even now at this age. He had a great plan and it was working. Lesnar was getting tired. Than again, Lesnar lands a punch and it's lights out, he's just that ****ing big AND explosive enough to snap that punch. Scary. ****ing *******. I think a good striker with good takedown defense can take him the distance and beat him quite easily in the third or later. I will have to disagree with you on Crocop, beebs. I think with a good gameplan he'd be able to stay on his feet for long enough to do damage and survive once taken down. Take Lesnar the distance and unleash damage. As far as Lesnar in Pride, don't fool yourself, even though HW division was great at the time Lesnar is always a problem and it could have been a very good chance he would've gotten a crack at Fedor.
The CroCop who beat Coleman is dead and buried; he would have to fight like he did against Choi, but the difference is Choi isn't a quarter of the fighter Lesnar is. Pat Barry, Kongo, or Hardonk; hell Manhoef even, would have a better chance; they would lose in far worse looking fashion 99/100 times, but they have the balls to go for that one in a million shot and land it. Those guys who go in gun blazing and 1/100 times land; Cro Cop would slowly circle away, feint, circle away, feint, until he was grabbed mauled and turned into a meal of antelope for the Lion that is Lesnar.
I think Crocop mentally broke at some point not long ago. Something tells me he's got it back and will be a force again. It might be just wishful thinking but only time will tell.
Why? Honest question. :? You would think the main problem with a wrestler would be his execution of the submission moves and his defense against them. :think
What has naming 5 fighters got to do with it? As I said on before the UFC HW division is poor. I also said he is doing ok in a poor division. This is realling getting to you... isn't it? :tong