Ugh god, Brock didnt prove, PROVE he was the best or even deserving to be in that stupid little 4 man HW tournament. Hell, Mir didnt deserve to be in that tournament either. Brock was not the most logical opponent because he had ONE win in the UFC over a mediocre tailor made Heath Herring. Your logic is terrible.
adnboxer your in a nitemare and it keepz getting worse god is not going to be helping you out with this one cdnboxing i bet u HATE brock for your very own personal stupid ****ing reasonz and i bet that HATE inside of you feelz TERRIBLE cdnboxer go start up your very own fight club and you make sure to RANK brock as the fighter that is least deserving of a title shot in your fight club that way ull never have to worry about brock smashing all ur deserving fighterz to peicez and making u look like even more of a jack ass then you currently are see a therapist
great question im picturing him scrambling to come up with fighterz that wont make him look more stupid look for a really long period in between the reply if he repliez at all
Lesnar was nowhere near being among the best thats for sure. After all, his only relevant win was against Heath Herring who is nothing more than tough, durable, limited gatekeeper. There were many UFC HW's at that time who were simply more proven than Brock. BROCK did not deserve a title shot. Its almost mind boggling that were even having this discussion. Do you know how many fighters have said Brock didnt deserve a title shot? ALOT. Jesus Christ, a guy is 1-1 and people think he earned a title shot.
I'll agree with the fact that he got a title too soon. WAY too soon. If he had another 2 good performances than it would be alright. At the time Kongo was more deserving than Lesnar, would he had beaten Brock at that time, probably not, but he sure as **** deserved it more.
by winning the title, brock proved worthy of the chance given. whether or not it was deserved doesnt matter, apparently he was good enough with minimal experience. to me, his results so far speeks for themselves, which really is all that matters..
You still haven't addressed the rankings issue. I said you car argue Lesnar got fights against Mir and Herring early. What I mean by early, is compared to other fighters. Brock has now proven his was ready after defeating both of them along with Couture. I also said I thought the UFC was calling him champion too soon. Now Lesnar is champion, and probably deserving of being called the sport's 2nd best heavyweight. So again, what was Herrings appropriate ranking in the UFC heavyweight division when Lesnar faced him?
Lesnar certainly hadn't earned his shot, but he has more than maded up for it now. There's not really much point dwelling on it when he's beat a durable seasoned veteran in Herring, one of the biggest names in MMA in Couture, and avenged his only loss by defeating Mir. That surely warrants the #2 HW spot in MMA.
How did Brock get fights with Mir and Herring early? Those are the guys hes supposed to fight because both of them arent very good. People seem to forget that at the time Mir fought Brock, Mir was a non-factor who was 2-2 in his last 4 fights, his 2 losses being against Brandon Vera and Pe De Pano. His 2 wins were against mediocre and below average fighters in Christison and Hardonk. Mir was brought into fight Lesnar because Mir was a recognizable name due to him being a former UFC champion and simply isnt very good. They saw Mir as a winnable fight for Lesnar. Herring CANNOT fight wrestlers. He got mauled by Jake O'Brien, he wouldve got mauled by Cain Velasquez and he got mauled by wrestler Brock Lesnar. It was a perfect tailor made fight for the UFC. Herring is a tough, durable mediocre fighter and Lesnar would likely maul him in front of a home crowd. So I have no problem with him fighting guys like Herring and Mir but fighting Couture is absolutely ridiculous especially considering it was for a title shot. Another thing people seem to forget. Mir beat Lesnar, LESNAR to get a shot at the interim title against Noguiera. I actually like Mir alot but I just call it like I see it. Mir benefitted greatly from this because Mir is likely never going to make it back to fighting for a UFC title again. In terms of where Herring was ranked at the time he fought Lesnar, who knows. I never ranked him that highly. I rank him slightly ahead of Kongo and Kongo stinks. Herring is a limited fighter he would lose to any wrestler you throw at him.
No it doesnt. I have no problem putting Lesnar at #3 but hes most certainly not ahead of Barnett at #2 even though Barnett would get smoked by Lesnar. Barnetts resume is simply more impressive.
Actually, stylistically, Mir was a great opponent for Brock. 2-2 in his last 4 maybe, but a former champ and a very very legit BJJ blackbelt. Would you have had Brock fighting for the belt earlier? You rank him slightly ahead of Kongo and Kongo stinks? Who in the UFC should brock have fought? I mean, if Herring is better than Kongo the options are getting very slim. Mir sucks. Kongo sucks. Herring sucks. I suppose after BEATING Herring he has to step up. In the UFC, who could he fight that is better than Mir, better than Kongo, and better than Herring. Options are slimming. I guess he should probably fight Couture. What? Couture? ****ing served.
No, Mir is not a great opponent for Brock. The UFC isnt stupid, they dont put Brock in there with a guy they think hes going to lose to. I said I have no problem with Brock fighting Herring, Brock is new to the sport, what I along with numerous MMA'ers have a problem with is him getting a title shot from beating HEATH HERRING. I didnt know the UFC division was 3 deep with Kongo, Herring and a retired Couture.
