In every sense of the word, a "Classic" performance from Hopkins tonight.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Swarmer, May 21, 2011.


  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,495
    2,150
    Oct 22, 2006
    I think it helps that Hopkins had a late start, thus less mileage on him. With the exception of the first Jones Jr fight, Hopkins had an easy ride until he was 36. He had an opportunity to learn his craft, and learn it well, he did.

    It is interesting and somewhat unsurprising, that with one amazing exception (Moore), the fighters that could put in performances well into their 40s, had long periods of inactivity during their career.
     
  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,578
    Nov 24, 2005
    What were the press ups for ?
     
  3. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

    28,760
    84
    May 30, 2009
    Hops style-wise might have the edge against Bute, I think. But mentally he might be able to expose Dawson's lapses and mental weaknesses. So it's interesting.
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,229
    257
    Oct 22, 2009
    I´m quite happy he won. :happy
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,015
    48,118
    Mar 21, 2007
    The guy is a miracle.

    Is his doing push ups in the ring the funniest thing you've ever seen at the fights? I couldn't believe it.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,015
    48,118
    Mar 21, 2007
    He took his lumps in the 12th too. The man is a God.
     
  7. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    54
    Oct 15, 2007
    Just wathced it without knowing the result before hand, I'm so happy for the legendary Hopkins.

    I was worried when the final bell went that the judges might have saw the little bursts by Pascal as worthy of gaining him the victory but in the end all was well as I had it by 4 points for Hopkins.

    Yes B-HOP
     
  8. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    54
    Oct 15, 2007
    Did you see what Pascal did though? Hopkins started doing push ups so Pascal started doing them behind him with 1 hand! More proof that even after the fight had finished Hopkins had gotten in Pascal's head!

    No disrespect to Pascal, he did his best.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,015
    48,118
    Mar 21, 2007
    Yeah, i felt a bit embarrassed for the lad actually. Hopkins is 46 for Christ sake. If you can't match him for push ups you got problems.
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,354
    Jun 29, 2007
    This is a great accomplishment. Hopkins can put distance between himself and Moore / Foreman / Fitzsimmons if he can make a title defense or two.
     
  11. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

    12,797
    11
    Oct 14, 2009
    - Bute's handspeed is comparable to Dawson's but perhaps slightly slower

    - Dawson is the better inside fighter

    - Bute is hands down the harder puncher and his body punching is so formitable it deserves a seperate acknowledgment.

    - Bute has the better chin having walked through Bika, Miranda, Berrio, Zungia with the one instance vs Andrade in their first fight having as much to do with exhaustion than anything else. Dawson has been hurt or down vs Adamek, Johnson, Pascal, Diaconu off the top of my head.

    - Dawson has quicker feet but Bute can be equally elusive and has better pivots imo and doesn't resort to simply jumping in and out and fighting in straight lines as often as Chad.

    - Dawson gets hit with the right cross less often than Bute.

    Against Bute Hopkins best bet is to fight a typical Hopkins fight ugly, boring, spoiling, excessive clinching and keep it on the inside as that is Bute's real flaw. You can tell he's not comfortable clinching, holding, wrestling on the insde and even when he has oppertunites to throw inside he typically doesn't. If he tries to fight like he did tonight and be more exciting, take risk, exchange, fight at range Bute will stop his ass.

    Against Dawson fighting from the outisde he'll still be at a disadvantage but not as much as against Bute imo. Dawson is comfortable and quite adept at fighting inside but if Hopkins gets dirty and rough i think it would be very easy to throw Dawson off his game. Hopkins will be able to mind**** Dawson worse than a Pensylvannia State Inmate.

    P.S. as for TS 'Classic' performance indeed. The old thumb in eye trick would have made Zivic proud lol
     
  12. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

    19,654
    52
    Jan 19, 2010
    Well thanks Vysotsky, you summed up my thoughts on the Dawson-Bute-Hopkins rivalries pretty well. I think Hopkins will be able to dissuade Dawson pretty easily, and I don't think Bute is as vulnerable in that category.

    I scored it 8-4.

    I knew Hopkins was in his **** when I saw that Face/Off a couple weeks back. Entertaining stuff.
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    61,699
    46,360
    Feb 11, 2005
    All props to BHop, but Pascal is so amateurish one wonders how he got this far. He makes so many mistakes so obvious to anyone who has been coached on any level...

    Meanwhile, Hopkins proves great longevity if not actual greatness at any one time.
     
  14. Muchmoore

    Muchmoore Guest

    Pascal is about as poor a real champion as I've seen. When Dawson finally woke up in the 11th round, he seriously rattled him twice and was on his way to stopping him or at least dropping him before the headbutt, and Dawson isn't even a puncher :lol: It's not even just Pascal's skills that are lacking, the guys just never heard of ring generalship. Either he doesn't spar a lot (like most youngsters today, to their detriment) or he's the dumbest ****er on the planet.

    But incredible performance by Hopkins. At his age to beat a guy of Pascals athletic abilities shows why boxing is such a pure art.
     
  15. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,861
    48
    May 5, 2011
    Hopkins is a true legend. I had it 115 to 113 Hopkins. Once he did the pushups I knew
    he had really got into pascal's head. Loved his defense last night, thoughts on the
    knockdowns? I thought the both should have been knockdowns but more so the second.