In fairness to David Haye (and his toe)..

first of all, haye won't ever beat wlad, because wlad is the fastest super heavy of all time. he is better in every departement then haye, and because of his foot and hand speed haye had no chance.

let's go to vitali. i support both k bros since their debut, and vitali in his prime, the kirk johnson, sanders and williams fight would had beaten wlad in a close good fight and completely ****ed up david haye, but vitali today gained experienced and fights way smarter then before his retirement, but guys he lost his speed big time. his foot speed is pretty slow today and his hand speed is not close to wlad's and miles away from haye. but he has great timing, distance feeling, ring generalship and he is damn accurate.

i think if haye fights like against wlad he will get koed late, if he fights more offensive, with more in and out movement and great defense he has 40/60 chance against vitali. i know vitali koed solis but before that you could see that he had big problems with solis speed and haye is faster.

 

You have to give Haye credit for getting people interested in the HW division if nothing else.He's always going to struggle against good big heavyweights.He's always a natural cruiser but he sells fights superbly.

 

Eventually even when Haye and some of his fans made me nauseous, he did give the division a boost.
If only because people wanted to see his big mouth being shut in a brutal way, and the Brits and/or Klit haters had someone to cheer for.

On the other hand he wasn't exciting at all, when facing anything better as a gatekeeper at HW, held the WBA belt hostage for a while fighting the likes of Ruiz (who was the one coming forward, imagine that!!!!) and freakin' Harrison!

He's a guy you'd love to hate, and like Floyd he's 'playing' the role of obnoxious ******* without much effort... Sadly these guys are needed in today's boxing to get the attention it deserves.

 

First of all, Haye does not deserve a shot at Vitali. His lack of engagiong against Wlad is reason enuff.Broken toe or not. Secondly Vitali is much more asccurate and IMO hits harder than Wlad. His jab is stifling and would smash that big-mouth Haye. People you are forgetting that Vitali is a huge man, Adamek looked like a little guy in against him;. I'm pretty sure /Adamek would kick Haye's ass. So if Haye wants to return let him start with the Pole and go from there.

 

David haye is a fraud and vs VK is nothing more than some extra cash. Nothing more

 

It was a real injury, and he was having anaesthetic injections in the foot days before the fight.

As silly as the injury sounds, it was real, and was painful.

 

his toe was not the problem, because it was the small toe, if his big toe was broken then ok for me, i broke my middle toe and played football (soccer) without problems. if you big toe is broken then you can't do ****, but you won't even notice the small toe.

his other big problem is, that he just throws one or two shots, he never throws combinations. that why he is doomed to lose to both K bros.
and the guys who say adamek would beat haye, **** off, i like adamek but man haye would ko him pretty fast

 

I love when people say that Haye ran, well no ****. He's a CW fighting a very big HW, unless he wants to get KO'd he has to stay on the defensive and pick his shots very carefully and hope for a KO. I think the reason people are criticizing him for running is because they wanted to see him KO'd and because he didn't allow that to be happen easily, he is apparently a chicken.

 

The problem people had with him running is that he said he was going to fly and Wlad and **** him up :deal

 

Yea, it's called hype. Helped with ticket sales and ****.

 

Well, you're right about that part. I wanted to see Haye trade it out with Wlad, and even Valuev... BUT SO DID HIS FANS!
And that's exactly what Haye wanted anyone to believe... that he would go in Tyson style (and be stretched out while doing so) on constant attack!

But to be honest, that was his only serious chance against Wlad too, going in like a mauler. He never did... He was happy to lose with the least amount of pain possible, as long as he got his paycheck! And he will do the exact same thing if the Vitali fight happens. He's happy to lose, as long as he gets paid a shitload of money for it.

I'm sorry, but I can't cheer for a guy like that... Even if he wasn't an obnoxious caracter.

 

I know I'm part of the minority, but I don't think Haye did all that bad against Wlad. And you're right... people seem to forget that he is a blown up cruiserweight fighting the top super heavyweight in the game today. Klitschko's size advantage more than his skills was the difference in that fight.

Now as far as Vitali is concerned - what I do know is that Vitali's legs looked horrible in his last fight. He looks like he's walking on stilts! Haye is very mobile and fights more like a middleweight than a heavyweight. I can't invision Vitali chasing Haye around the ring for 12 rounds without getting tagged himself. If Haye can avoid letting Vitali square up and land something big on him, he has a very good chance of winning the fight.