In retrospect I dont think DE LA HOYA was weight drained vs PACMAN....here is why?

Dunno about you, but Oscar would have been better off being weight-drained rather than whatever the **** he tried to pull off with his weight.

 

DLH was down on weight two weeks before and you know it.

 

well, I stand corrected but common knowledge was NSAC also prohibits what WADA doesn't allow.

 

Nice try, but...



Actually, it wasn't even a nice try...

 

Everyone knows De La Hoya was weight drained. Even the people/*******s know it is true. You would have to be blind not to know De La Hoya was weight drained. Like seriously, how can you look at De La Hoya and not say he was weight drained? I know you guys don't want to discredit one of Pac's victories but, De La Hoya was weight drained in that fight.

 

Or... its common knowledge they follow the DRUG list. Not procedure list.


Which they even state in their rulebook.

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=17916&more=1 nothing like facts dropkick De La Hoya Interview; De La Hoya-Pacquiao 24/7 Nov. 23 Episode

Richard Schaefer: Welcome to today's conference call to discuss the "Dream Match" between Oscar de la Hoya and Manny Pacquiao. Those who have seen last night's episode of 24/7, it really was one of the best episodes if not the best. There is such a contrast between these two fighters, and yet they have so much in common. They are both exciting, explosive, and are training so hard and really want to win. They both carry the pride of their people, of their nations on their shoulders..

Last week I was up in Big Bear and I saw Oscar, a skinny Oscar, 145 pound, so it's official. Pacquiao is bigger than de la Hoya. It is amazing how fast Oscar looks and yet how strong he looks. He hasn't fought at welterweight since knocking out Arturo Gatti in 2000. It's the first time he's training in Big Bear since his bout against Bernard Hopkins in 2004. So there is so much going on. It's such an amazing showdown. We are waiting with anticipation. But for now, the anticipation is over and I'm going to turn it all over to Oscar de la Hoya now, 10-time world champion in six different weight classes.

Oscar de la Hoya:Training camp is going well. It's actually great training with Nacho Beristain and being up here in Big Bear, it's once again ignited that fire in my belly, which hasn't burned in many years. So I'm ready to go. I've been weighing 145 pounds now for the last three weeks. The weight is no problem. I feel strong. I do have to admit that I - in the first couple of days that I did make the weight or I tried making weight, about a month ago, I did feel a little lightheaded and weak, but now that I have gotten used to it and now that weeks have passed by, I feel strong and fast and very comfortable with welterweight. And I'm even thinking of going back down to 140 after this fight, so we'll see.

Question: Richard had mentioned in his opening comments about the surprise that Pacquiao may actually be a little bigger than you right now in terms of the weight. Does it shock you to hear that that he would be heavier than you right now, two weeks before the fight?

Answer: Well, it actually doesn't shock me one bit. Like I said, I've made 145 already. I feel strong. I find myself joking with Nacho that in my career, I've fought at 130 all the way up to 160. Now I'm going back down to 145. So in a couple of years, I'll be hitting 135. The weight has been easy. It's been no problem. My way of training and my way of eating has just been very strict. And therefore it's been easy for me to make this weight.

Question: The weight of the fight is 147 pounds. Clearly your size is going to be to your advantage I would think. Why would you go all the way below 147, take off those additional two pounds when it is not necessary? You could be 48, 49, and make the weight the day of the fight or the day of the weigh-in.

Answer: Well, it's very important for us since I haven't made 147 since I fought Arturo Gatti. I just want to make sure that I feel comfortable, that I feel strong, that I feel full of energy.I want to make my body adapt to this weight class. And, now that we've been on weight for several weeks now, now I can eat whatever I want.

Question: A lot of the talk in the buildup to this fight has been the quite entertaining back and forth, quite frankly, between yourself and Freddie Roach as opposed to the back and forth between you and Pacquiao. The two fighters, yourself and Manny, seem to have shown quite a bit of respect for each other. You have never really been one to trash talk. But now it's really been you and Freddie going back and forth. What is that like to do that with somebody I know you professed great, deep respect for during your camp with him, him the same with you? It almost feels like at times during this promotion that you're righting Freddie Roach. You're not fighting Manny Pacquiao.

Answer: Freddie Roach has made comments. I'm still going to say and put on the line is that I still respect him as a trainer and I still respect him as a person.

And, it's obviously his way of pumping up his fighter. The great thing about me and Manny Pacquiao is that we don't need to trash talk each other. My motivation for this fight is Manny Pacquiao's explosiveness, Manny Pacquiao's punching power, Manny Pacquiao's speed, Manny Pacquiao's youth. That's my motivation.

So, I have nothing bad to say about Manny. And if Freddie Roach is going to say something bad about me, so be it. But I'm oozing with motivation, that's for sure.

Question: You went through the whole experience of moving up in weight from 130 all the way up to 160. And obviously Manny is making a huge jump. What is the most difficult challenge for a fighter who's making that kind of jump in weight? Is it the training or is it actually the fighting, fighting with smaller gloves and hitting, you know, fighting bigger opponents?

Answer: Well, the actual challenge is doing it right because a lot of fighters, they think that if you eat whatever you want to eat and then you have the liberty of eating any types of foods, they're going to gain the weight. They're going to fight at a higher weight class and you're to be successful. That's what a lot of fighters think. There's two ways of doing it, the wrong way and the right way. And I think if you do it the right way, you can be very successful, so the way I've been over the years. From the looks of Manny and who he has behind him, they're doing the right thing. They're gaining the weight properly. He's looking fast. He's looking strong.I think it's going to be an advantage for Manny to come up in weight. I think he's going to be the same Manny as we saw in the lower weight class.

 

OO! OO! I know what they're gonna say!

"Of course Oscar is going to say he felt fine. He knew he was screwed but had to keep up appearances for the fight!"

How's my aim?!

 

This is what I was talking about. Oscar was already at 145lbs range weeks before the fight. Only morons will think that Oscar should weigh 152lbs or more on fight night. Oscar's expected weight on fight night is around 147lbs based on his training weight. Why are people suddenly surprised that Oscar indeed weighed near 147lbs on fight night?

Most are relying on Roach here saying that Oscar is dehydrated and have IV marks. Suddenly Roach is the truth now but they dismiss what he says most of the time. Besides, I have never read or seen the video of Roach saying that. But still, Oscar weighed as expected. No surprises here.

 

Because De La Hoya hadn't been 147 lb in the wing since since he was a superfeatherweight. He was 170 against Floyd.

 

Even with Oscar weighing 145 for 3 weeks is TERRIBLE for him. No idea how he even trained. He should of never been that low in the first place. Oscar had always always been packing on 10+lbs after every weigh in.

 

Oscar hadn't fought in the division in about 7 years and needed an IV before the fight. Freddie Roach said he saw the track marks on his arms in the ring. The guy was toast before the bell ever rang. Purely a fight for money and American exposure for Pacquiao.

/end thread

 

Essentially what I already said. Roach is a liar until he says something no one can visually verify. I've already asked for pictures or some sort of time mark in the fight that you can get a glimpse of the marks but they don't exist as far as I've seen.

 

Roach: When I saw the IV marks, I told Pac to jump on him.

 

I havent even read any posts, just the thread title & I just want to say.... In retrospect, I think the thread starter is on crack.