In retrospect I dont think DE LA HOYA was weight drained vs PACMAN....here is why?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by krishv123, Feb 22, 2011.


  1. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Do you have to keep announcing it when you add someone to your ignore list? Is it not enough that you've made a "Wig's Ignore List" thread? Since I am also in your ignore list, you won't give a **** what I have to say to you.

    **** YOU, YOU ATTENTION SEEKING ***** :finger :|:|:|:|:|
     
  2. krishv123

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    Listen PACMAN is a at least a top 20 ATG....Oscar never beat anyone in the top 100....hes lost all his biggest fight....the only suprise to me was how PACMAN has evolved
     
  3. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Ahh this is a hate thread.

    Good to know Pernell Whitaker and Chavez aren't top 100 ATGs.
     
  4. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not a hater and I'm a big fan of Pac these days. I'm not a fan of Oscar and he just looked plain ill that night. Nothing to do with hating, that's just the way I saw it (and still do). On the evidence of what Pac did to Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito, yes, he would still dominate a fit and healthy Oscar, but I'm just saying what I see.
     
  5. DobyZhee

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    If that wasn't the real Oscar, than who was there?

    and that wasn't the same mosely that Floyd fought..:patsch

    lmao at using the excuse that pac fought boxers who never fought again. There's a ton of boxers that Pacquiao has put to pasture.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    And yet what does this have to do with the fact that Oscar was indeed weight drained on fight night? Pac moved up took an incredible risk did what he had to do but he beat a weight drainded guy period and no ammount of spin will change it.:deal
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF beat a fresher Oscar at a weight Oscar was comfortable at big difference there.:deal So I guess if Pac beats Mosley you'll tout it as some great accomplishment despite him being 0-1-1 in his last two fights? Atleast when PBF fought Mosley he was P4P ranked in the top 5 and was ranked #1 at WW. Where is Mosley ranked at now?
     
  8. krishv123

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    Listen no one expected the performance from PACMAN, because no one really beleived he was an ATG fighter. At the time i thought ...yes OSCAR must be drained, but after the way PACMAN has dominated top fighters after that fight makes me think......Maybe Oscar wasnt drained.
     
  9. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao wasn't an ATG even though he had won belts in four weights and beat Morales and Barrera, both of whom are going to be guaranteed top 100 spots prior to his fight with Oscar?

    Sounds like you very insecure over Manny's legacy. That or your a massive troll or lacking in intelligence or a mixture of all three.
     
  10. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Irrelevant. Corrales came in drained for most of his career, still ****ed people up. You cant put the weight draining down to him loosing, he was simply beat by a better man, drained or not.
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Err yes he was. He was already rated top 50 ATG by most on these forums and industry experts.
     
  12. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Did I say he wasn't an ATG? I was refer to TS's post where he was butt hurt because people on this forum said Manny wasn't an ATG before the fight. Only people with half a brain, trolls or an insecurity complex wouldn't have considered Manny an ATG.
     
  13. krishv123

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    I wasnt a big beleiver until the oscar fight because he never showed that type of discipline in his previous bouts, i didnt htink he could take that aggreive style upwards....but he refined his style and became a better more efficient less careless fighter.
     
  14. DobyZhee

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    he'll be known for putting mosley in a coma...past prime whatever.

    that will be an accomplishment in itself.

    pac retires fools left and right.

    and Mayweather beat Marquez at a weight he was comfortable at...:yep
     
  15. Uncle Rico

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    I'm not entirely sure whether Oscar was as badly drained as some people make out. Nacho Beristain, being Oscar's trainer for the fight, would know more about his fighter's condition in that ring than anyone else. And he came out and rebuked claims of Oscar being drained. He said Oscar lost as badly as he did, because the Filipino was just incredible in the ring. And I'd probably agree. Manny was ****ing awesome in there. His ring-craft, offense, creating angles, head movement, was the best I'd ever seen of him. I'm pretty sure that had he opted with that same discipline against Margarito and maybe Cotto, he would have made it an easy night against them too.