In retrospect I dont think DE LA HOYA was weight drained vs PACMAN....here is why?

dextrose 50 is just glucose, it's what your body makes from carb...not detectable as far as I know.

blood doping....Pac offered to be blood tested after the fight.

edit...NSAC should have in their rules (if not already) that they could do a blood count of fighters after a fight.

 

:roflThats good but can you please explain the IV marks...Nobody can deny that Oscar was a former shell of himself...Just because you post this doesnt make it correct...There are several articles that negates your points.

Nobody can take away Pac's win against given that he was coming up in wieght, also nobody can deny that Oscar was weight drained for that fight either. Please explain the IV marks man...Thats all I'm asking you to do.

 

Don't bother arguing with Toxo. Worst ******* on this site. OnePunchKo has more knowledge than Toxo, but just isn't as annoying

 

I didn't ask that, you use to argue that the Vegas standard testing was totally fine. Why would would you even bring up blood doping when you believe DLH would of been caught with the drug test afterwards.

 

Besides Toney saying he lost all this weight, was there ever anything else proving it, like video or pictures?


I just struggle to believe Toney within 3 months gained and lost 50lbs.

 

It's just hard to believe he packed on so much weight, then lost it and was cleared to fight.

3 months and 3 weeks, he gained it and then lost it all?


Im thinking things were exaggerated IMO.

 

Plus, unless I missed it, it's not like Toney was given short notice to fight, so if anyone is to blame, it's Toney.


With DLH. It looks to me like DLHs body was so drained making weight, his body wasn't absorbing what he was putting back.

(Not his fault)

 

Okay. Here's the deal, and this is a reply to eze as well.

Freddie is a bullshitter. You know it, I know it. But what he is or isn't telling the truth about varies depending on who you ask. If he says he doesn't want Manny blood tested a week out, he's lying because he said they could test anytime. Freddie bullshits the way any other trainer who gets a lot of attention does.

Does anyone have a copy of the fight handy and can tell me where to look so I can see the IV marks on Oscar myself? Because to be honest, I've never seen them. If someone can direct me to a stilll, to ANYTHING where the IV marks are apparent, I'll rest my case. Right now, my ship is at sea so Youtube isn't an option but if you can direct me to something visual or an article that isn't based off of what Freddie said, then just point me in the direction of it. I wish I could reply faster to everyone, but satellite internet bandwidth is minimal at the moment. I've got a copy of the fight on my iPod and my iPhone and I'm yet to see the marks. So no bull****, point them out and I'll look.

 

I was arguing with dodong who was trying to say IV drips are illegal. (Which they are not)


I really don't care. The simple fact is, come fight time, HBO weighed DLH, and he weighed less than Pac. And whens the last time DLH weighed 145 in the ring?

 

Okay? He had a great camp, that means absolutely nothing.

 

I thought this thread had been bumped from years ago......

Oscar was drained dry & everyone got a nice pay check.