In retrospect I dont think DE LA HOYA was weight drained vs PACMAN....here is why?

he definitely lost more than DLH, thats very likely, but the 50lbs or whatever stupid ass amount I've heard is far from the truth.


What looks like to me is, toney packed on some lbs, and was lazy for camp, and needed to shred the extra 10-15lbs he had left.

 

I wasn't sayng DLH was... atsch

 

I never said Roy Jones victory was great.

 

from my understanding is NSAC follows whatever drug or procedure that is prohibited by WADA.

....and how can you say that infusing saline, blood and glucose is not illegal?

 

he def look drained, but it's his fault for it. I don't know why he did that to himself. Maybe he wanted to be lighter. Either way, that was a great pac perforamnce. The sharpest I've ever seen him.

 

There are six more rounds of beating or possible KO.

 

Even if he was weight-drained, Pac shouldn't pay for it with his win being significantly diminished. Oscar was a huge favorite and Pac was expected to get punished. The way Pac went on to destroy top fighters Hatton and Cotto proves the Oscar win wasn't an anomoly, and that Pac would've likely beaten any version of De La Hoya. It was a great win on the night, and I still consider it a great win today. Preparation is all part of the sport. If you give Oscar this excuse, then where do you stop? Many great wins could be diminished.

 

I've always got along with *******s until now, mainly because like them, I appreciate Manny's skill and I believe Mayweather is ducking him and that he is the undisputed p4p No 1. I also believe Manny's wins over Hatton (especially), Cotto and Margarito were amazing, so I hope you believe me when I say Oscar looked ****ing ill that night. I mean proper ready-to-vomit-if-he'd-actually-eaten-anything-for-a-week ill. Manny would no doubt have destroyed him in just a devastating a fashion if he was healthy, but Oscar was a shell. I'm not saying he was drained, but if my 10 year old boy looked like that, I'd pack him off to the hospital and keep him off school for a month. I don't give a **** about what Roach or Nacho say, I believe the evidence of my own eyes.

I don't even like Oscar ffs, but he didn't look right to anyone with a pair of eyes.

 

Yea I have no ****ing idea why dodong started with "oh oscar rehydrated illegally" and then cited WADA when NSAC oversaw the fight.

to answer your other question,8-10 years beforehand. I think a lot of the problems with how Oscar looked was he hadn't been that size in 8-10 years. You won't look normal under that situation.

 

http://www.zimbio.com/Oscar+De+La+Hoya/articles/424/Freddie+Roach+Nacho+Beristain+Oscar+De+La

 

I cant find the Pics of Oscar IV marks...Sorry.

 

No,his body was so shot from the dropping of weight that he couldn't even retain water weight after the weigh in no matter how much he try'd to rehydrate.Thus the IV marks minutes b4 the fight.

Pac did his thing thats for sure,but if you think that was a healthy Oscar you've been fooled.