In Shape '70's Foreman vrs. Any Tyson

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  1. Sonny's jab

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    Tyson was ****-weak compared to Foreman, and got spanked by a mediocre fighter.

    Tyson couldn't even go the distance with Holyfield, and Foreman did it at 42 years of age, Evander was hitting upside his head for 12 rounds and George just kept coming.

    Ali would knock Tyson out too, or bust his face up so bad Tyson would quit. Frazier beats Tyson.
    These guys were tough, not frontrunners.

    Every big heavyweight could push Tyson back, his stance was all square on. Bonecrusher was walking him back, and Smith didn't even wanna fight that night.
    Tyson didn't like it none when Frank Bruno was pulling on the back of his neck, Foreman would do that and throw little Mikey across the ring, spin him, push him, bully him.

    Seriously though, I'll give credit where it's due, Tyson can mow down some pretty good boxers, guys who backpedal or "civilized" stand-up punchers.
    But 70s Foreman is another animal entirely.
    He's a brute, he'd mashed Tyson.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Unfortunately for Tyson the bench pressing sure didn't show much dividend in the ring. Holyfield was all over him for strength and regardless of peak quotient Tyson was as strong or stronger as he'd ever been.

    In the ring Tyson showed average strength if that, he was handled around by an ex cruiser, tho Holyfield certainly built up in all the right ways.

    Pushing Tyson back forces him to firstly check his backward momentum before attempting to come forward, do you really think this is bad for Foreman? Come on. Foremans not after a chest to chest fight any more than Tyson is - he wants Tyson back where he can get full power as well as having the opportunities to catch Tyson moving in with that monster uppercut.

    I can't see Tyson soldiering on to the point Frazier did (kudo's to him) and don't agree with your next rebuttal that he won't have to because Foreman won't have him in such trouble.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:
     
  4. AnthonyJ74

    AnthonyJ74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would be a tough fight to pick. But I have a feeling that Tyson just might be able to stop George. Tyson's speed, power and delivery were phenomenal. He was no Joe Frazier. I find it hilarious when people point to the Joe Frazier fights as evidence as to what Foreman would do to Tyson. Tyson and Frazier were not that similar at all in terms of ability and strengths. Tyson's speed would be a huge problem for Foreman to contend with. To me, George Foreman, while definitely strong and powerful, was too wide open and clumsy with his punches. He could definitely hurt Tyson if he tagged him cleanly, but I think Tyson would be able to strike first and strike more often.
     
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  5. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your right Tyson was no Joe Frazier,Tyson wasnt as good as Joe,Joe had heart Tyson didnt.
     
  6. mr. magoo

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    I think George Foreman had the style and physical attributes to beat just about any version of Tyson, including a 1987 rendition.
     
  7. Popshots

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    I don't care who you are, Tyson's early round press will give any heavyweight fighter hell. Tyson was very too skilled, fast, and precise of a puncher to lose to Foreman, but it doesn't mean he will dominate. If Foreman catches Tyson clean he can surely put him out. I remember Tyson fighting a super hard puncher in Frank Bruno and he was actually stunned momentarily. If Bruno did that then I know Foreman would do more damage, but I see Tyson as having the talent to defeating foreman if he can avoid most of his punches.
     
  8. Mega Lamps

    Mega Lamps Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman beats him. A more interesting fight would be the 'comeback' Foreman vs Tyson.
     
  9. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    This is a fight that I would not bet on. Both fighters have attributes that would trouble the other.:good
     
  10. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Mate, I totally agree (see some of my past posts for proof). Tyson has the fast hands, evasiveness, skill, speed and power to beat Foreman and if he providing he makes it past the mid-rounds and avoids a slugout he'd prevail. I think he would. :good
     
  11. godking

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    Tyson is not Frazier .

    Tyson unlike Frazier is a combination puncher and has vastly better defense. Tyson is also a vastly superior counterpuncher to Frazier.

    What happened in the Frazier fights is not a good indicator of what would happen in a Foreman vs Tyson fight.

    Frazier and Tyson are two different fighters .

    Foreman's tendency to throw wild looping punches would play into Tyson's counterpunching abilities
     
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  12. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Incidently I'd make mid-late 80's Tyson a favourite, post-prision '96 version probably 50/50.
     
  13. McGrain

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    Yeah, there are a couple of us after all.

    The thing is there are two Foreman's - devastating puncher and clumsy fanny that pushes. The puncher is "Force of Nature" though, although I think he is more acurate than generally given credit. The point is, he has poor handspeed and serious width to a lot of his best work. Slow+width = vulnerable. As a composite puncher Tyson is shaded by Louis and that's it in this division - give that type of composite puncher this type of split second and he's landing bombs in swift combinations that will be followed by more swift combinations that will land because Tyson is an accurat puncher - he is also, along with Louis and maybe Dempsey, the greatest finisher in the history of the sport.

    I know a lot of people see this as a mis-match in favour of George. I know what Cus said about it. But a mistake has been made here. I think that it is quite possible that Mike would have ended this one in the first round by TKO. I'm not trying to run down George or push Mike, nothing like that, it's just that George Foreman is to slow to beat Mike Tyson. And this "Get him eventually" thing doesn't wash when you are in with one of the most complete offensive packages that has ever walked and have limited defence.
     
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  14. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Yeah, Foreman's defensive vunerability is what seals the deal in Tyson's favour IMO. Also his vunerability to the left hook and counterpunches, Tysons underrated jab could also be a good weapon to set Foreman off balance and create openings on the inside (should he bother to employ it).

    Mike is the only 'swarmer' in history I'd give a good, even very good chance of beating Foreman. The fact he has a very good chin as well helps here. You can never count as great a puncher as Foreman out, though.
     
  15. heerko koois

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    Tyson by second round ko.......1985-1989 tyson has much more handspeed than Foreman, very hard fight for foreman i think ...
     
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