In the last 30 years- p4p whose better than Sugar Ray Leonard

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Since 1977.....only Whitaker or Chavez could be considered better. Not Roy Jones, not Lennox Lewis, not Floyd Mayweather.

Not Duran because we're starting since 1977, not 1970.

 

Floyd's career isn't over. If he racks up some big wins (Cotto would be the most important of anyone, including Mosley and Hatton), I would then be able to put him here. If he retires now, he's lower on the list than Leonard. If he beats Hatton and Cotto, you can surely put him there. I'll reserve judgment until his career ends.

Also, keep in mind that though Leonard fought the biggest names of his time, he also had losses. Floyd remains undefeated against the big names of his own era, though there are still some heads not on his resume. One point you would add to Leonard that Floyd does not have is his Olympic Gold Medal, if you put much merit into the amateur background. Essentially what I'm saying is that if Floyd retires now, he's below Leonard, if he racks up two to three more big wins, he is above Leonard.

As for who is possibly better from the last thirty years, I would consider Roy Jones, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, or Pernell Whitaker. To me, Hagler simply isn't there, as great as he was. Also, considering his longevity in the sport and his record, Hearns has a case.

 

A win over the best LW and top 5 p4p of all time. A win over a top 30p4p and top 3 WW of all time, a win over arguably the best MW of all time + a whole lot of other big names. No contest, only Duran can compare but if his accomplishments pre-30yrs dont count, the answer to thread is nobody.

P4P SRL KO's RJJ. SRL had the power and speed to catch RJJ.

 

You have to be kidding. Explain what makes PBF´s P4P legacy greater than Leonard.

 

That doesnt cut it. :deal

This isnt the who else has been a great fighter in addition to SRL thread.

Pryor was great, but again, his competition doesnt match up to SRL.

 

Hagler was the better man - just not when they met - Thats my view, but SRL was definately a mayor roleplayer.

1. Hagler
2. SRL
3. Whitaker.
4. Hearns.
5. Aaron Pryor.

 

I have Duran and Hearns ahead also Whitaker has a good case but thats it.

 

Floyd can't do anything atthis point to ever surpass Leonard. For one thing, we always have to compare currents to the best of all-time. Do we compare Floyd to Wilfredo Benitez? No. We compare him to Sugar Ray Leonard, a man who fought in the best welter/middleweight era and has attained legendary status.

The comparison is unfair. Floyd was not born in such an era, and in fifty years when people look back, Floyd will be remembered as an awesome talent that won titles in multiple weight divisions, but Leonard will still be legendary for the drama, rivalries, and several of the best fights of all-time in that specific era.

Adding to that, no, I don't think Floyd stacks up to Leonard, and I firmly believe Leonard would have won head-to-head. Floyd has the tools to beat him, but mentally, Ray is very much tougher.

 

Wins over Cotto, Hatton and an aging Mosley does not compare with wins over Hearns nor Hagler. There is nothing Mayweather can do apart from unifying all the titles or beating someone convincing likely Wright or Hopkins. Head to head, Leonard would KO Mayweather.

 

Yes Hagler was a great fighter, but his accomplishments cant hold a candle to those of Leonards. All the Hagler fans rave about him beating Mugabi...if Leonard beat Mugabi it wouldnt even rank over his win over Ayub Kalule....Kalule was a good titlist and would barely rank as one of his ten best wins.

 

Roberto Duran.

 

Duran was still a lightweight in 1977.

Duran in the rubber match against Dejesus was the best he looked during his lightweight reign, IMO.

 

none. Can anybody say that they have beat Benitez, Duran, Hagler and Hearns. But it will be funny for somebody to make a case for somebody else.

 

None IMO.