In the Ring With Marvin Hart

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  1. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the Ring With Marvin Hart is now available from me if you want signed copy. Otherwise, online booksellers such as amazon.com should have it soon.
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    apollack, Sep 24, 2010
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Of course you will want to keep some of your cards close to your chest, but has writing this book changed your perception of Hart?

    You read the ocasional contemporary source suggesting that he was something special, but looking at his record you just dont see it.
     
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  3. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say my respect for him went up. He was a fighter's fighter. But I'll let you read it and render your own opinion. As usual, both the pros and the cons are there.

    This is what I said early in the book:

    When James J. Jeffries retired as undefeated world heavyweight champion in May 1905, Marvin Hart and Jack Root fought for his vacated title on July 3, 1905. Following in the wake of a long-time champion who was considered unbeatable, without having won the linear title owing to Jeff’s retirement, and without a lengthy reign, Hart has become the South’s underappreciated and somewhat forgotten champion.

    Although Hart may be one of the least-known heavyweight champions, his career deserves more discussion than the neglect that it is usually receives. Hart was known for his aggressiveness, hard punch, good conditioning, and ability to withstand punishment. He was a very exciting fighter who was almost always in entertaining fights. Not a fancy boxer, he was built for the fight to the finish. Think prime Arturo Gatti. Today, Hart would be a fan favorite, a fighter who you would like to see fight, win or lose. He was game and powerful to the core. Hart was Louisville, Kentucky’s hero long before there was a Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali.
     
    apollack, Sep 24, 2010
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  4. janitor

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    I understand that he was also the first Marvin to carry the monicker "marvelous".
     
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  5. apollack

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    You are correct. I mention that as well. Marvelous Marvin Hart was the first Marvelous Marvin.
     
    apollack, Sep 24, 2010
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  6. apollack

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    This the the first biography ever written on Marvin Hart, the forgotten heavyweight champion from the South. Hart gained popularity as a middleweight and light-heavyweight in the Louisville, Kentucky area before moving up to heavyweight and defeating the highly touted top contender Jack Johnson. Hart then won the vacant world's heavyweight championship in a fight to the finish against Jack Root. Like other books in Pollack's "In the Ring" series, this book is meticulously researched using next-day local primary source materials, and details Hart's boxing career.
     
    apollack, Sep 25, 2010
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  7. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was always a Hart man-I'll buy the book.
     
    mattdonnellon, Sep 25, 2010
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  8. he grant

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    Great Adam. I'm ordering mine from my Amazon account tonight ... Congrats and thank you in advance !
     
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  9. apollack

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    Thanks. Please post what you think of it.
     
    apollack, Oct 2, 2010
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  10. guilalah

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    Hi, Mr. Pollack

    Your new book on Hart arrived from Amazon a few days ago; it's for Christmas, so I'll start on it in a few weeks.
     
    guilalah, Dec 4, 2010
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    It is another great addition by Adam ... I have it and it is terrific ... I recommend you buy it for the comprehensive coverage of Johnson / Hart alone ... in addition, there is a ton to learn about and like about Hart ...
     
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  12. Zakman

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    New Review of this excellent book posted on ESB's main Page:

    Review of Adam Pollack's In the Ring with Marvin Hart


    by Zachary Q. Daniels - Perhaps even more than the earlier installments of his excellent series on the heavyweight champions, Adam Pollack’s In the Ring with Marvin Hart fills a gap in the boxing literature. For while his well-researched works on Sullivan, Corbett, Fitzsimmons and Jeffries undoubtedly provided additional understanding of the boxing careers of these men, as a result of his unique reliance on local primary source accounts to cover events, these were also boxers whose lives and careers had been the subject of some attention before. Not so with Marvin Hart.

    Hart is not only, as Pollack notes “one of the least known heavyweight champions,” he is probably the least-written about of the many men who have held the title in the past. No biographies have ever been published, nor did Hart himself write an autobiography. This may be unique among heavyweight champions, the more famous of whom are among the most written-about of all athletes. As surprising as it seems, this is actually the first biography of Hart that has been published. Clearly, then, Pollack’s book fills a gaping void.

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    Zakman, Feb 15, 2011
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  13. eslubin

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    Hart's the least known & least written about "champion" for a reason. He's really not even a champion

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYFIxQA8c-4[/ame]

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    eslubin, Feb 15, 2011
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  14. Zakman

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    Well, this is one of the controversies that Pollack's research largely settles. It's pretty clear that at the time that the Hart-Root fight was for the HW championship.

    Perhaps you should check it out!
     
    Zakman, Feb 16, 2011
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  15. janitor

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    It is possible to imagine a scenario in which his title claim had not been recognised and had withered on the vine.

    In the final event this did not happen and the rest is history.
     
    janitor, Feb 17, 2011
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