In the USA, is it getting to the point where if you're not controversial, you ain't sellin.

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  1. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Ward is cool. You can walk up to Ward and shake his hand, he doesn't have security at all. He is generally just chillin at random matches all over the state and in Vegas. No goon squads or **** like that. I think you mistake guys who don't take **** for mean people.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Ward is a monster, yeah, yeah, yeah he's calls himself the Son Of God, and says he's a devout Christian, but so did countless tyrannical theocratic butchers throughout history so that holds no water with me. He's a conniving, duplicitous, manipulative, virtue signaling, bigoted, crybully, dirty. cheating sleazeball.

    Crawford has a darkness in him, its not buried very far below the surface, just look at that garage incident, he's a volatile hothead and clearly gets off on inflicting pain, and then tries to pretend to be a good guy afterward, at least Kovalev admits he likes torturing opponents.:lol:
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    No, I've always felt that way about Ward, he's always struck me as a phony.
     
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  4. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    didn't andre "sodom or gomorrah" ward get paid like 6.5 mm his last fight?

    for some reason, more and more boxers are still getting paid hella cash, maybe bc of the trillions of dollars printed by central banks which have boosted up cost of living

    but the reason why US boxing missing a superstar:

    1.) real wage deflation has occured despite the government misleading that unemployment is down
    2.) all the top heavyweights decided to play in the the NBA/NFL
    3.) as a follow to point 1.).....PPV is overvalued at $60 while salaries have not increased

    4.) the floyd model promoted that to be the best, you have to be undefeated where as floyd was one of the best matchmakers of alll time. now, if you lose then US fans automatically rate you as a bum

    5.) everywhere in the world outside the US, fans support their celebrities whether in boxing, football (soccer), rugby, cricket, music...etc. The US fans have no loyalty across the board, especially when racism is still rampant

    6.) The biggest killer of black people is black people, so black americans hate black boxers

    7.) americans eat ****, watch ****, speak like **** so you need to sell **** like broner and floyd...
     
  5. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    It's because Obama didn't invite Ward and Crawford to the White House but he let Cavs and Warriors in :shakehead:
     
  6. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Nope idiots, although Wilder takes the cake.

    Let's be real for once you trickster.

    No more overlooking your heros out of ring faults just because you love them inside of the ring.
     
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  7. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    You have to have IT. And those fighters like ward or Crawford don't.
     
  8. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    i think thurman will sell bc he is eloquently cocky for a boxer and likes to throw bombs

    erroll may sell bc he is going for greatness, clearly wants to unify 147 and move up to 154
     
  9. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There isn't a single boxer in the world that would get noticed by everyone on the streets (of the USA) if they were by themselves just walking around. Floyd Mayweather is the most popular fighter of present day but idk anyone that would notice him if they saw him walking down the street. I don't even know anyone that watches boxing.
     
  10. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    F#uck"ing dreamer sad wan£
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i think the reason us boxing is missing a superstar, is because of lack of exposure for the right personality. i think a guy like spence could become big if they promoted him aggressively. hire a public relations expert to coach him, get him on the talk show circuit, pursue endorsements, and just be likable. hes smart enough to handle all that, hes not a stump like floyd, so he needs no gimmicks to be interesting. but all that takes effort and money, and promoters are as stingy as they come.
    fighters dont come into our living room enough to capture our imagination anymore.
     
  12. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    No offence, but is there any chance that Blizzy and MVC radiate to boxers that are phony outside of the ring because they can relate to them????

    I'm probably wrong, lmao
     
  13. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its not so simple. If one is controversial or not, or if one is quiet or not

    The US promoters and how they do their bizz is the real reason why boxing has downgraded this much in the States.
     
  14. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Dre Ward is the nicest and one of the greatest boxers to lace em. He'll be huge soon.
     
  15. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    floyd sells because hes an true all time great. thats the main reason
    broner use to sell well before we came to realization that hes not nothing like floyd, but at first he had alot ppl fooled but once he did not resemble floyd we tuned out.

    these very humble guys sell enough there millionaires and all these nice guys you listed have appeared on main events of ppvs or just one ppv. and there careers are in progress so they can blow up.

    pacman is a nice guy and he blew up in usa

    oh yea and not all uk fans no what is going. not everyone knows carl foch for example