In Their First 10 Pro Fights, Who's Been More Impressive? Vasyl or Floyd?

Remember the time at Toronto, when he ran out of new and intersting stuff to say and told the crowd he felt good because he was wearing TMT gear with the "Toronto flag" on it?

 

Brian Mitchell is an ATG SuperFeather, that doesn't mean much at all. It's a historically dead division.
Think about it, Mayweather is considered by some as the greatest at 130lbs, he only beat a string of B minus fighters, and two very good names (both IMO not worthy of HOF - and if they get in, it's the lowest conceivable tier). That doesn't compare to other divisions.
If Loma simply beats Berchelt, Tank and someone like Salido and Corrales, he would be one of the GOAT 130lbers. That's silly to me.

I just checked half-assed, I had no idea - I can't believe some of the names that were put into HOF, very sad state of affairs (just to confirm, is he actually in IBHOF? I didn't read the article properly).
Timothy Bradley will certainly make HOF in that case since the bar has officially been set lower.

 

More brilliance from Bozotazo! LOL

 

You are one mixed up little weirdo. LOL

 

Loma
9-1 after 10
Two divisional world title by his tenth fight.
Lomas first ten had a better win loss ratios than those of Floyd's first ten.
Lomas first ten were overall ranked higher than Floyd's first ten.
Loma is on nearly every P4P top ten list after 10 fights Floyd was not he was considered a very very good prospect.

Floyd .....
10-0 after 10....


Make an argument other than the word period. No doubt that FMJ is the best of this gen, first ballot HOF, will be considered an ATG, more money than anyone else, marvelled at this skill ect..... But we are talking purely the first 10 not the entire span of his career.

 

^This right here.

IIRC, Hernandez was Floyd's 17th pro fight...

 

On a tangent: Timmy will probably only get inducted into Canastota if they change the name from "International Boxing Hall of Fame" to "International Boxing Hall of Very Good".

 

Lomachenko spent a lot of time developing fighting elite amateurs. Not the same thing as being a pro but he didn't walk into the pro game as an ordinary amateur, he was a full grown man with more development than Floyd as a teenager.

 

Completely moot. We're comparing their pro careers here. How is it fair to compare a pro career that's 10 years in to one that's only 3-4 years in?

 

Also, since we're talking about their respective pro careers after ten fights, lets consider the bare numbers:

Floyd Mayweather's first ten professional opponents, at the time they each fought him, had a combined record of 78-55-6 (37 KO), with 14 of those knockouts coming from one guy, Louie Leija.

Now, are you sitting down? You are? Good. Because here are Vasyl Lomachenko's numbers.

Hi-Tech Vasyl's first ten professional opponents, at the time they each fought him, had a combined record of 291-27-13 (198 KO), with 12 of those losses on the record of Orlando Salido.

No comparison between the two really. You might as well end this thread, because as a debate, it's dead in the water.

P.S: Even if you were to remove Chonlatarn / Suriya from the equation (since many Thai boxers pad their records in fights with guys who are severely overmatched -- check out Pongsaklek's record), who was 51-1 (33) at the time he fought Loma, Vasyl's other 9 pro opponents have a combined record 240-26-13 (165 KO). And that record includes fights with Salido, Russell Jr, Martinez, Walters and Sosa.

 

hard to argue those stats.