I’m pointing out that you’re asking the wrong question. If you don’t take the results into account, exactly what is your point. If you want to hang your hat on “AJ lost to a guy better than Wilder or Fury beat,” that’s not exactly a great claim.
Calm down boss, no need to get all butthurt and stuff, we are just discussion Boxing, not a nuclear holocaust. I wasn't talking about Joshua loss, I'm talking their individual opponents resume and their standing. This is not about Wilder knocking Breazeale out in the 1st or Joshua losing in the 4th. I'm talking who on fight night, you looked at the opponent and said to your TV "Whoa, this one will be rough".
If you couldn't tell that Ruiz would be rough, you DKSAB. And oh yea, it was the 7th round that AJ quit.
You'd think all that was obvious but rewind a few months and there were people on here insisting that Breazeale >>>>>> Ruiz..
Well knowing that Ruiz stopped Joshua, it’s easy to act like people thought that would be “rough.” And while many posters had acknowledged Ruiz’s skill set, there was no sentiment going into his fight with AJ that it was a tough matchup and an upset in the making. That’s especially true after the weigh-in. Go back and look at the threads for yourself: the impression was AJ was fighting a fat, if skilled, guy who was in no shape to be considered a really live underdog. Hardly anyone posted anything going into fight night suggesting that AJ was in for a “rough” one.
That's because when ppl see a fat guy then their fat prejudice overrides their logic center and they get moronic. All it would take to get educated on Ruiz is to watch 5 minutes of his last fight before AJ. Dimitrenko is like a poor mans copy of AJ.
Thanks for the correction, not sure why I had the 4th round in my mind..oh well. As far as Ruiz, I wasn't saying that he wasn't good or not, I was just getting a gage of what other posters thought. I watched the Parker and Dimentriko fights, I knew what time it was with Ruiz. Michael Hunter, who faced and beat Ruiz in the amateurs said that Ruiz has one of the fastest hands in the heavyweight division.
You are getting treated poorly in this thread because you asked an intellectually dishonest question. Everyone knows Ruiz is better than DB & TS. But you seem to want to defend Joshua's defeat on that basis, which raises issues independent of those other fights and which you seem to want to avoid. Instead of asking a silly non-question, why don't you make an argument that the loss isn't so bad?
1. Ruiz Jr 2. Breazeale 3. Eurobum Schwarz That was the case, before the fights, and the fights themselves proved it too.
