In their own words, Hagler vs Leonard

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  1. Ravishing Rick

    Ravishing Rick $.02 *Soutside slugger* Full Member

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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Anomaly or not, it was a specific plan to confuse leonard and it failed miserably.

    Both fighters were far removed from their prime, it cannot be denied. I wouldn't use it as a barometer for how good marvelous was.

    Very competitive fight after the first 4. I think I had it 8-4 leonard.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it's a bit unfair, I know. But when I watch him against Duran I also kind of get that feeling... But it really is harsh on someone who dominated so many good fighters, I suppose.

    Yeah? I had it a draw last time I scored it. Don't think Leonard did much after the first five rounds.
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Really good read. Thanks!:good

    This is the paragraph that sticks out for me: "Hagler: Anyone who says I was slowing down from the Hearns fight and the Mugabi fight — no, I wasn't. But maybe I wanted them to think I was? If I looked good out there, Leonard would never come. Everybody's looking [for] a possibility. [If] I'm vulnerable, they could win. For me, I could have retired after Mugabi. But there was one more guy that I wanted to fight."

    Don't know if I really believe this, though.
     
  5. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    I don't think so, not particularly. Yes, Hagler wasn't regularly fighting fifteen rounders, but Leonard wasn't fighting one rounders for three years. His legs were concrete after just 12 rounds. Imagine having to evade Hagler for another three rounds, when Hagler feels the pinch of having to make up for earlier rounds.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    I scored it a draw first time I watched it as well... Most recently however I saw them pretty much swap rounds after the first four.
     
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    or credit to the winner, whichever way you saw it that is. I thought it was a draw myself
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kind of ironic, if true.

    MMH hints that he fought at less than his best in some fights to give Leonard the impression that SRL could beat him. SRL saw him and got the idea that he could beat Hagler ... and it turned out the idea was correct.
     
  10. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I wasn't referring to the condition of the fighters and the thought of Leonard going three more rounds. But the fact that it was scheduled for the same as Hagler's previous two fights, so it isn't an issue in my book.