in their primes: Ricky Hatton vs Zab Judah @ 140

Pretty much sums it up for me.

 

:yep

 

:roll: A 20 year old Judah battered Ward. Absolutely punished him to the body for the whole 12 rounds.

 

Thats what cracks me up about *******s..lol Judah dominated that fight although he said it was a tough fight and all of a sudden he struggled.. If that is the case. Pac done struggled with half of his victories b/c he got ****ed up many of times even in wins.

 

Go and post on the Classic Forum, Ike WIlliams and Ortiz aren't big punchers, they are widely considered 2 of the biggest P4P punchers of all times by most knowledgable people. Ask on the Classic if you don't agree with me, or better yet watch their fights

You seem a bit new to boxing, I'm guessing you've only watched boxing for a few years and haven't seen many old timers and mainly root for Brit fighters. There's nothing wrong with that but you may enjoy watching some greats a bit more

KO Percentage also reflects a low standard of opposition my friend. Judah has something like 20 world title fights out of his 40 fights. Yet he still KO'd Spinks, who Mayorga/Karmazin/Jermaine Taylor could not KO

And yes Hatton looked like he was ready to be ko'd against light hitting Collazo

Ricky Hatton never beat a world class southpaw, Judah does allot of the things Pacquaio does well

 

6-7rnd? I'm not sure as I haven't watched the fight in a while. Hatton was dropped by a left hook on the belt line, a perfectly legal punch as Dan Rafael and others said at the time. Hatton should have received the 10 count and the Tszyu assault that was surely coming after it if he got up. Tszyu was coming on strong in the middle rounds.

 

Its a pick em fight depending on the Judah which comes.

 

Suck fish fin.

 

Lets set this str8 this comes down to style. throw out both their fights with Tyszu as their common opponets have nothing to do with this.

Zab is a fast And powerful southpaw. hatton is a rugged bruiser and like to pressure his man. this fight favours Judah hatton has alwyas been open for the upper cut and a str8 down the middle. this would bee a good 6 round fight cuz thats how long it would last. hatton cut cut pretty often and Zab has the power to cut him to ribbons. not only that JUdah would be faster then Hatton. i like hatton and i think he was matched effectivly through out his career to get him to his fights with PBF and PAC but their is a reason why hatton avoided fighters like Judah, Witter,Mitchell, and even rematch with Collazo who he beat by a thin margin. Hatton would be walking into punches as always but agaisnt a fast puncher like judah he see's fewer of the coming which is bad for him . everybody knows the punches you don't see coming hurt the most. Hatton's pressure is better against other pressure fighters with slower foot movement and basic 1-2 fighters who fight in a text book manner with little rythm or fluid movement.

 

Cheeky ****, I'm 34! I've been following boxing since Tyson hit the scene and watched shitloads of old footage with my grandfather when he was alive.

ESB classic? I stick my head in there now and again and it seems to be the same clique arguing the same old arguments with nostalgia abound and rose tinted glasses for anyone pre 1980, no thank you. Tbh, I don't give a **** what most of them say in there though there are those who I find informative and good reading.

Williams 38% ko, fought mostly against cans.
Ortiz 42% ko, fought mostly against cans.

I don't need ESB classic to tell me with their rose tinted specs that they were 'Big punchers' when the evidence is right infront of my bloody eyes.

Tyson, big puncher 75%.
Foreman, big puncher 84%
Shavers, big puncher 76%
Louis, big puncher 75%

You or ESB classic is not going to convince me that fighters who couldn't ko 50% of the people they fought who were mostly cans are big punchers when the facts are there for all to see!!

 

66% think Hatton would beat Judah? :huh

 

Perfect summation of ESB classic.

 

For 1 KO's at HW come allot easy BUT You do realise most of Shavers/Foremans opponents were **** easy? As for 30 or so of Tyson's initial opponents.

They didn't fight as many top 10 opponents as Williams/Ortiz who consistantly fought the best, Judah fought around 20 world title fights, way more than Hatton for instance

Apart from anything a big punch alone doesn't KO a man, workrate, technique, timing and a big KO punch KO's a man. Judging power on KO percent would make Vitali Klit 1 of the biggest punchers ever but he doesn't even hit that hard

Competition quality reduces KO percentage, Paquaio's KO percentage isn't much below Judahs. Mayweather's KO percentage is slightly above Judah's. I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to say Mayweather hit harder than Judah

Seriously Judah banged hard, only Tyszu/Pacquaio/Urango are comparable in terms of power on Hatton's resume and none were as slick