In this Thread: We list our top 5 weightlifting + bodyweight movements for boxing

you really believe that :rofl.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsTqmEeBKhw

 

I'm giving you a firsthand account here. I know of weekend warriors who take things, and I know that none of the professionals I was involved with took anything. You can think that's naive but it's a fact whether you believe it or not.

 

That's what the literature says and that's what anyone who works with actual athletes can tell you from experience.

 

From my own personal experience i've found rack deadlifts/squats better because it's more applicable to boxing, very rarely in the ring am I going to need to explode from a position where my knees are bent at more than a 90 degree angle i.e. full back squats/floor deadlifts. Thus allowing me to move a slightly heavier weight than I would doing the regular movement while being able to focus solely on my explosiveness and the concentric phase of the lift. Don't get me wrong though I will still mix it up every now and then with a full back squat, but mostly racked even front squats & racked lunges.
But everyone is different and each to their own, as for dips yes I completely hear you, begging for an injury is right, I don't include them as much anymore I used to incorporate them as my rest period sometimes, or as part of a few bodyweight exercises in the morning after a run/sprints, I feel they helped me get stronger when I was first getting into some lifting for boxing i.e. compound lifts etc just to develop more overall strength, but I have trouble with one shoulder I rarely use them now.
As for what S**** said about the inflatable ball, I use it with a cable machine to wrap my arms around & grab the cable with the arm furthest from it & hold it in front of my chest then do the oblique twists, this way i'm isolating my abs and core and not using my arms or shoulders to pull through the movement (especially if it gets tough) as some people do when doing them standing on cables, I also do this one on my knees sometimes with the ball, because that way i'm not overcompensating with my legs (as I'd do other leg exercises in same session) at all it's just purely down to my core for that explosive twist replicating a hook, the arm position around the ball is also good replication of the punch technique so is even more relevant.
But what works for some may not for other I suppose!

 

Why would I have any reason to disbelieve what you've experienced? :conf

All I'm saying is anyone who thinks there are no drugs in pro rugby is naive.

 

Here's quite an interesting read on drug use in pro rugby:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2863758/Rugby-s-drug-problem-exposed-RFU-boss-admits-realise-s-issue-addressing-it.html

At the end of the day you either buy into pro sport's slick PR agenda (no drugs, nothing to see here, move along please) or you don't. I don't and I think anyone who does is naive and stupid in the extreme. It's fkn obvious all pro sport's riddled with it. Not even worth arguing about. :nono

 

I love doing dips and have been doing them off and on for years. They feel great for increasing strength in the Chest, Shoulders, and tris. However, I do notice more and more pain in my shoulders as I do them, and the it pretty much goes away when I stop. Any suggestions for an exercise that replicates the benefits without the shoulder problems? (and don't say wall sits.)

 

Dips are fine, just like anything don't overdo them. It's the same with pull ups for me. I love 'em but if I do too many I get elbow pain so I go careful with 'em. :good

 

Not from my experience, that is for sure. literature tells us what we know, not what we don't, or didn't.

 

Good reads.. :good

 

Interesting stuff, yet the body can do it naturally, it appears, given the correct protocol.

 

Can you cite some of this literature?

 

In order:

Sparring
Shadowboxing
Burpees
Hill Sprints
Pullups