In this topic, the men who faced challenges when they didn't have to.

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  1. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather
    -- for fighting De la Hoya.
    Jermain Taylor -- for fighting Kelly Pavlik.
    Cotto and Mosley -- for fighting eachother.
    Antonio Margarito -- for defending his belt against the #1 contender after he accused Mayweather for ducking his mandatory.
    Joe Calzaghe -- for taking on a less-than-well-known but better-than-all-the-'names' fighter in Kessler.

    Who still have to --

    Hopkins.
    Pacman.

    Add your own.
     
  2. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac-JMM 1
    Tito-Winky
    Taylor-Pavlik
    Lewis-Vitali
     
  3. Middleweight

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    At what point do you need to fight someone? Pavlik was Taylor's mandatory for months... he fought two #1 elimination bouts.
     
  4. Napuis

    Napuis Straight talkin' mo'fuhha Full Member

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    Jake LaMotta - defending his Middleweight title to Sugar Ray Robinson after SRR had beaten him in the previous four encounters.

    You WOULD NOT see that nowadays.

    And yes, LaMotta lost :)
     
  5. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So now, fighters get extra credit for doing what their supposed to do? I guess when there are guys like Roy Jones, and Benard Hopkins around, who talk about fights more than actually fighting , guys like Cotto and Mosely are elevated to a higher level just for being active and not trying to avoid a tough fight , like most would avoid the plauge.
     
  6. Mike T

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    Jones didn't have to fight Ruiz
     
  7. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor was offered to fight Calzaghe.

    He also had the option to rematch Winky.

    Mandatories don't mean a lot these days. Pavlik definitely pose as a hgih risk low reward fight for Taylor and yet he took it. Kudos to him.
     
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    I think any fight Corrales took had to be a challenge. When he moved up to welterweight and fought Corley that was insane. A true warrior.
     
  9. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep. I remember clearly Roach was not very happy with Pac's decision to fight Marquez - whom Roach had been saying was a much difficult fight for Pac than MAB or Morales.
     
  10. Mike T

    Mike T Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair points. The paydays were great in both cases. Jones was already a first ballot hall of famer without this fight. It was basically a lose, lose situation for Ruiz. If he wins it's a great payday but he did what he was supposed to do to the smaller Jones. We all know what happened.
     
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  12. raiderjay

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    I could be wrong, but I thought Pavlik was already the #1 contender when he fought Miranda and he didn't need to fight him, but did anyways to cement himself as the #1 contender for both of Taylors belts. If that was the case then he easily wins the contest for fighting a tough fight when he really did not need to.
     
  13. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    Any fighter worth his salt should want to fight the best. If a champ fights 3 or 4 times a year (like they should) at least 2 of those fights should be against the # 1 and #2 rated challengers.Politics and bull**** abc rankings are ruining boxing.Thats why i like Cotto and Pavlik so much - they want to fight the best out there, theres no ducking,no bull**** trashtalking, they just come to fight
     
  14. Brickhaus

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    Juan Manuel Marquez - for fighting Chris John IN INDONESIA for next to no money.

    Sultan Ibragamov has to get props for going after Chagaev and Klitschko. I doubt he'd be the favorite in either fight, and long-term, he'd probably make more money fighting a bunch of scrubs and mandatories like the other heavies have been doing.
     
  15. Pantera2000

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    He was #1, but not the mandatory. The WBC made that fight and the winner was to fight JT.