In this topic, we post commonly heard stupid opinions.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Shake, Aug 3, 2007.


  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fighter A is better than Fighter B because he "destroys" his opponents.

    Fighter A is a puncher, Fighter B is a boxer.

    Then when they fight, they are so suprised when Fighter B kicks Fighter A's ass all over the ring. (Trinidad-Wright anyone?)
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    He's a borderline ATG. The blowout of Kessler will seal it.
     
  3. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know man, Bigtime and Carlito are in a dead heat if you ask me.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal Carlito is more recent though. I wonder if he isn't just trolling for the sake of trolling.
     
  5. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And that's the great philosohpical question: Is Carlito trolling or just incredibly stupid. Either way, it's painful to watch.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    It's difficult to determine this given that 168 is a truncated division--in the olden days it would have been part of lightheavyweight, so it has only a fraction of the past talent.

    If we consider supermiddle as equivalent to any other division, then a win over Kessler and winning back the IBF will make him an indisputable ATG.
     
  7. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure quantifying "skill" is as stupid as it is lazy. If I think Floyd will decision Hatton based on superior defence, timing, and footwork, why not save a few words and say he's the more skilled fighter?
     
  8. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    PERFECT example
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of?
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That's true. I'm referring to those posters who say things like "Wlad is bigger, more powerful, and more skilled than Ali, so he'd beat him". They don't quantify how he's more skilled, though. No technical analysis. Sometimes, "skilled" becomes interchangeable with "good".

    The worst example is the big-skilled-good-chin quadrangle. If he beat bigger fighters, he must be better than someone who beat smaller fighters, which means he's more skilled. He also got hit by fighters who are bigger (and who also must be more skilled, using the reasoning above), so he has a better chin, which makes him better, and so on.
     
  11. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ah, I see. It's got to be some convoluted logic if it ends with Klitschko > Ali.

    :admin
     
  12. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  13. Andrey

    Andrey Active Member Full Member

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    Very good observation?? This is why people think prime Tyson was sucha beast.

    So Tyson KO's Spinks in one while Holmes takes him to distance.


    Prime Holmes still destroys Tyson.



    Andrey
     
  14. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    Prime Holmes still destroys Tyson
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I'd expect the same thing from someone saying Ali > Klitschko. Technical analysis is much more than simply declaring one fighter "better".