In what fight would Calzaghe be the underdog

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    i don't see why being the fave is a no-win situation

    winning against a top fighter is a legacy builder, even when you are the favorite.

    And he could win more impressively than expected, in which case its definately a legacy builder.

    However if you're an almost 3/1 favorite as he was against Hopkins and you win by SD, then no, of course its not that great for his legacy
     
  2. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Was Tyson an underdog when he fought Tillman in the pros? No, it dont matter what you do in the amatuers.
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes, I agree. Except about the case for Dawson. Like McGrain, I just cannot see how any bookie would make Dawson favourite.
     
  4. Boom_Boom

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    I think the bookies more likely will have Calzaghe as an underdog against Tarver than Dawson as of right now, IMO.
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    yea but seriously the LHW division is currently about as weak as its ever been.
     
  6. VIP

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    Well he is consensus top 3 P4P, so he'd be the favorite against anyone from 175 down. Same way PBF would be the favorite against anyone 154 and down. They both still have a lot to gain by beating the top contenders though.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Probably right, especially the British bookies, after Woods...but still cannot see that either.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ...except, whom has PBF fought at 154 lbs, from 154 lbs?
     
  9. Serpent Saint

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    I agree with you. However, i know a couple of guys who insist Dawson is a monster and the most avoided guy in the sport. I'm convinced they would favour Dawson over Godzilla.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He might still beat Calzaghe, but I don't think he would or should be favourite against Calzaghe. Calzaghe v. Dawson is a fight many of us hope to see, because of styles, especially if Dawson proves his chin and mental strength (concentration) a bit more. Hopefully he'll pick Diaconu for that. We'll know on the 3rd of June.
     
  11. VIP

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    Don't matter who's he fought. He'd be the favourite against anyone at that weight.
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You think so? I don't think he'd be favourite against de la Hoya at 154 lbs...do you?
     
  13. VIP

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    :huh He already beat Oscar at that weight.
     
  14. Serpent Saint

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    I tend to find when discussing the sport online practically every division, barring welter, is "about as weak as it's ever been."

    HW = ****
    Cruiser = ****
    LHW = ****
    SMW = ****
    MW = ****
    JMW = ****
    WW = strong as it's ever been
    JWW = ****

    And so on.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Was it not at 150 lbs? Oh, hang on; you're right! It was at 154 lbs!:good

    EDIT: so...Mayweather and Calzaghe are the only two, really...Pacquiao too, maybe??