In which of these fights did you have the loser winning?

Marquez-Pac, Spinks, and Johnson.

 

I didn't see the Arce one and the Spinks one, but apart from that i thought the right winner won all of them. Add to that list Morales - Diaz, Hopkins - Taylor I & II, and Toney - Peter I, all fights where i agree with the official decision, and was not very surprised when the winner was announced

Malignaggi - NDou rematch I scored a draw though, but i don't think Paulie lost

 

Same except I had Dawson by a slim decision

 

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I had Marquez clearly but closely beating Pac man. And Hopkins beating Calazghe.

I didn't see the Arce or Spinks fights so I can't comment on those.

 

Oh, forgot to add Hopkins-Calzaghe. Scored it a draw but since Hopkins scored the only KD, he wins the decision.

 

Quite a few of these shouldn't. :yep

Spinks-Phillips isn't even in the same stratosphere as the rest of these, it was highway robbery of the highest order.

Marquez-Pacquiao II was a close fight with a clear winner. Not as bad as Spinks-Phillips but still bad in that the loser earned more points over the course of the fight using proper scoring criteria (it is not all that subjective).

Dawson-Johnson, borderline. The rounds here were more muddled than in Marquez-Pacquiao II, which was actually quite easy.

The rest* don't even belong there.

*Haven't seen Arce-Lookmahanak.

 

Pacquiao - Marquez II
Dawson - Johnson

I voted JMM & Johnson.

 

I scored Vaz/Marquez III for Marquez. I think people have short-term memory and only remember the last round that Vazquez dominated. Marquez got the knockdown in the 4th though so after those two rounds you have a wash and are looking at the other 10 for scoring, and Marquez outpointed Vazquez in 5 or 6 of those imo. I can't remember my official scoring but I have scored it 3 times, all for Marquez by a slim margin (its close though so no doubt a lot of people will have it for Vaz). But I think if this fights 4th and 12th rounds were flipped then people would be screaming robbery for Marquez

 

Yeh Spinks/Phillips was bad. I think I gave Cory 9 rounds, and he got robbed in his hometown too! :-(

 

Hopkins won 3 rounds.

(Maybe 2, 4 at best)

 

The real boxing fans know what's up. Spinks (clear robbery actually), Glen Johnson, and Marques/Pacman fights were ones where the real winners got the short end. Even 30 years from now, when we are all old and some young guy asks about one of those fights, we can say with confidence that the real winners got the short end. As Hopkins would say, "Boxing fans have eyes."

 

I think Vazquez got the nod because of his actions in the 12th. He came out looking for the KO while Marquez seemed content. And with him actually getting the KD, that really sealed the deal.

But really, in this fight and this trilogy for that matter, there really was no "winner" and "loser". It was irrelevant who won or lost. Both were winners in my eyes.

 

the problem is that they all have different eyes.

imo most boxing fans really suck at judging fights, and usually the judges get it right even when alot of fans don't